HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC Minutes - 05/29/02 Work Session MINUTES
Eugene City Council
Work Session
McNutt Room--Eugene City Hall
May 29, 2002
Noon
COUNCILORS PRESENT: David Kelly, Nancy Nathanson, Pat Farr, Scott Meisner, Betty
Taylor, Bonny Bettman.
COUNCILORS ABSENT: Gary Rayor, Gary Pap~.
Mayor James D. Torrey called the meeting to order.
A. WORK SESSION: Discussion of Recommended Amendments to the Eugene City Charter
City Manager pro tern ,Jim Carlson introduced the item, which was to consider proposed revisions
to the City Charter proposed by the Citizen Charter Review Committee. He noted that Mary
Walston of the City Manager's Office, staff to the committee, was on hand to make the staff
presentation, and City Attorney ,Jerry Lidz was available to answer questions.
Ms. Walston reminded the council that the committee had forwarded its final report to the council
on ,January '14, 2002. The council had a work session on the recommendations on ,January 28,
and at that time the recommendations were categorized as "housekeeping," "minor," or
"substantial." She asked the council for direction on the "housekeeping items," for discussion of
the two items listed as "minor" for possible move to the "housekeeping" list, for council
suggestions for further charter changes, and for direction regarding potential election dates. Ms.
Walston called the council's attention to a proposed schedule of work sessions to complete the
review of the committee's recommendations.
Ms. Walston noted that the council officers recommended that the council proceed in a Consent
Calendar format.
Mr. Kelly endorsed the work session schedule and order proposed by staff, and implored the
council to follow the schedule so it did not leave any of the work of the committee "on the table."
He reminded the council that its decision was to refer the changes proposed by the committee to
the voters, not to make the changes contemplated.
Mr. Kelly, seconded by Ms. Nathanson, moved to place all of the 32 items
listed as housekeeping in the staff memorandum dated February '1 '1, 2002,
on an upcoming ballot.
Mr. Kelly noted that the motion reflected the committee's recommendation to remove all of
Section 5'1 from the charter. The motion also reflected the changes to Section 54, the toxics
right-to-know charter amendment, recommended by the committee.
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Ms. Bettman determined from Ms. Walston that Subsection (1) of Section 51 would also be
proposed to the voters for deletion if the motion passed. Ms. Bettman said that housekeeping
items should be noncontroversial, and while she had no problem with the language, she did not
think it was a good idea to include the item if it could be construed in any way as controversial.
Mr. Meisner supported the motion and hoped that the council would address each issue by
placing a motion on the table prior to discussion as a way to focus discussion.
Mr. Carlson indicated that staff identified an additional minor housekeeping change in Section 16,
which clarifies the role of the manager in the budget process; as State law allows a biennial
budget, he recommended as a friendly amendment to the motion that the word "annual" be
struck. Mr. Kelly determined the City Manager would seek council authority to move to a biennial
budget process. He and Ms. Nathanson accepted the friendly amendment.
Ms. Taylor noted that she e-mailed a request to the mayor that the Citizen Charter Review
Committee members be involved in the discussion so they could offer clarifications of
interpretation. Mayor Torrey said he discussed the issue with the manager and they agreed that
the council alone should be involved in the discussion.
Responding to a question from Ms. Taylor about the nature of the Toxics Board's objections to
the changes proposed by the committee to Section 54, Mr. Lidz said that the change proposed
by the committee responded to the Court of Appeals' decision related to the amendment and
struck the language the court declared invalid. The board objected to the change because it
believed even if the language was not in effect because of the court decision, it would breach
faith with the voters to remove the language from the charter. He reiterated that the language in
question was not in effect because it could not be applied.
Ms. Taylor wanted to keep all the housekeeping items together, but pointed out if a councilor
disagreed as to whether an item was a housekeeping item, voters might also disagree. She
wanted all the charter changes to be offered to the voters on the November 2002 ballot.
Ms. Bettman thought it important to have unanimous agreement about the housekeeping items
because she thought the voters would take that fact into consideration as they considered the
ballot measure. She thought the changes suggested to Section 54 could be listed as a minor
change as a separate measure.
Ms. Nathanson wanted to keep the housekeeping items together, but did not want to jeopardize
them by bundling them with something controversial.
Because of the concerns shared by Mr. Kelly, Ms. Taylor, and Ms. Bettman about the potentially
controversial nature of the changes being proposed to Section 54, councilors agreed by friendly
amendment that it was not part of the motion.
The motion, with the friendly amendments enumerated above, passed
unanimously, 6:0.
Ms. Taylor, seconded by Mr. Kelly, moved to allow the members of the
Citizen Charter Review Committee to participate in the discussion if they
asked to be recognized.
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Mr. Kelly emphasized that he could not support the motion without the phrase "if they asked to be
recognized." He encouraged the council to take advantage of the committee members'
expertise.
Mr. Meisner said that he did not support the motion as it was not in keeping with past council
practice. He said the council could always ask questions of members in attendance, and noted
that the council heard the committee's final presentation and received its final report.
Ms. Taylor denied that the motion was not in keeping with past practice; when Ken Tollenaar, a
member of the committee, was on the council, it had occurred at least once. If the council was
overlooking something or misinterpreting the committee's intent, she thought it would be valuable
for the council to hear from the members.
Mr. Farr agreed with Mr. Meisner. He said that if the council had questions of the committee
members, councilors could ask them.
Mr. Carlson said that it did not matter what the committee meant, what mattered was the text
before the council and the legal meaning of that text. He said the council could always ask
questions, but the committee could no longer speak as a body. He pointed out that not all
members were present, and individuals would be speaking as individuals rather than as
members of the committee.
The motion failed, 4:2; Ms. Taylor and Mr. Kelly voting yes.
The council returned to discussion of Section 54.
Ms. Bettman said that the Toxics Board supported retaining the current language, acknowledging
that the text in question was not valid. However, State law changes, and if the text was in place
if a change occurred, it could be valid again.
Ms. Bettman, seconded by Mr. Kelly, moved to put amendments to Section
54 back on the housekeeping list, except the proposed amendments to
Section 3(A) and 3(E)(5).
Ms. Bettman noted that other amendments were acceptable to the Toxics Board, and the two
subsection changes were controversial and should not be considered housekeeping items for
that reason.
Mr. Kelly supported the motion. He thought it satisfied the concerns expressed by Ms.
Nathanson and Ms. Bettman. The changes would be considered later under the topic of minor
amendments. He pointed out that in addition to substantive changes, Section 3(A) also included
three very minor wording and renumbering changes, and he wanted to ensure that those went
forward in the housekeeping changes. Ms. Bettman concurred.
Mr. Farr said he would support the motion because it was regarded by at least one councilor as
controversial.
The motion passed unanimously, 6:0.
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Mr. Kelly, seconded by Ms. Nathanson, moved to add the proposed revision
to Section 45(1), concerning shod-term debt for the Eugene Water & Electric
Board (EWEB), to the list of noncontroversial items.
Mr. Kelly recalled that the council discussed the issue before, and he perceived it as a
housekeeping item. He said that EWEB suggested the change after the committee completed its
task, and it essentially recognized that there were financial entities other than banks.
Ms. Walston recalled discussion of the suggested change with the EWEB commissioners at the
February 25, 2002, joint work session. There had been agreement at that time to pursue the
change.
Mr. Meisner said he would support the motion but was somewhat concerned that staff was not
working toward a broader resolution of the other, larger issues related to EWEB. He had heard
no progress reports related to the issues, and he wanted to know what progress was being made
with those discussions. He interpreted the motion as maintaining the status quo and even giving
EWEB more independent authority. Mr. Meisner thought the relationship between the City and
EWEB needed to be better defined. He recollected the council giving direction to staff to
establish a new committee relationship with EWEB to look at the EWEB-City charter issues.
Ms. Bettman expressed concern that the text before the council exceeded the definition of
"housekeeping," and noted that the text before the council was not considered by the committee.
She said that the last sentence, which sounded like a "fire wall," was not a concept discussed by
the committee. Ms. Bettman thought the voters would perceive the change as going beyond
housekeeping, and the council would have to work to clarify the issue. She called for the
development of a list of minor amendments that could be forwarded to the voters along with the
housekeeping changes.
Ms. Taylor opposed the motion because she thought the issue should be addressed as a minor
change rather than a housekeeping change.
Ms. Nathanson said that housekeeping changes were often not just clerical errors or minor in
nature. They were often needed to meet changes in the law. She considered the first part of the
proposed change a housekeeping change because it merely addressed a change in terminology.
She considered the more substantial change that which provided more protection to the public,
and which placed more constraint on EWEB. She said that might not be housekeeping in nature,
but she thought the voters would appreciate the extra protection.
Mr. Kelly agreed with Ms. Nathanson. Speaking to Mr. Meisner, he said he also wanted to see a
joint EWEB-City committee or task force to look at the fundamentals of the relationship, but he
thought the motion could be considered separately from that.
Mr. Kelly asked the committee members present if they had comments on the proposed change,
based on what the committee discussed. Mr. Tollenaar said that the committee considered the
language offered by EWEB, with the exception of the last sentence in the proposed addition to
Section 45(1). He agreed that the remaining text was housekeeping in nature, but wanted to call
out for the council that it was his opinion that the given current circumstances surrounding
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EWEB, the change might or might not be controversial. He said that it depended on what the
council wanted to do with it.
Ms. Bettman thanked Mr. Tollenaar for the clarification. She thought that the last sentence was
something the council might have added if it had not been there already. She reiterated her hope
that all the council's votes on housekeeping items were unanimous.
Mr. Carlson said that the item arose from discussion between the Eugene council and the board.
He agreed that it was a noncontroversial item.
Mr. Fart agreed with Ms. Bettman's remarks regarding the need for votes on the housekeeping
items to be unanimous.
The motion passed unanimously, 6:0.
The council considered the "minor" amendments.
Mr. Kelly, seconded by Ms. Nathanson, moved to refer the Citizen Charter
Review Committee-recommended changes to Section 54(3)(A) and Section
54(3)(E)(5) to the voters as a minor amendment.
Mr. Lidz said that the Court of Appeals held the City could not apply the two definitions or
portions of definitions that Mr. Kelly's motion placed on the floor. The court also held the City
could not apply the sections related to the definition of hazardous substances that included
pesticides as local pesticide regulation was precluded by the State. He said that there was
uneven treatment of the portions of the court's decisions, and he thought there was a good
reason for that. Mr. Lidz thought there was little likelihood that the courts would change the
doctrine that led the court to its original conclusion the two subsections could not be applied.
There was a slight chance that the State would reduce the way in which it regulated pesticides
so that the City could do what the charter amendment asked it to do.
Ms. Bettman did not want to change the text of a relatively new charter amendment in reaction to
the court decision. She asked if there was a way to address the court decision through the City's
administrative rules or an implementing ordinance so the charter amendment text could remain
intact. Mr. Lidz responded that there was no good way to leave the amendment intact and
address the issue, other than not to enforce those provisions. That was what the Toxics Board
had been doing. The proposal from the committee was to take the subsection out of the charter
and establish a process for the council to add new chemical substances to the list of substances
to be reported to the City. That action would be taken by the council following a recommendation
from the Toxics Board each time a substance was added to a federal or State list. Ms. Bettman
said she preferred to follow the recommendation from the Toxics Board, which was a well-
balanced board with representatives from both right-to-know advocates and businesses required
to report. She opposed the motion.
Mr. Fart determined from Ms. Bettman that she opposed the motion because she was deferring
to the recommendation of the Toxics Board. Ms. Bettman pointed out that leaving the sections in
the charter would not affect how the City implemented the law.
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Ms. Nathanson asked about the differences between the board and committee, and why it was a
bad idea to remove the text in question. Mayor Torrey also questioned why the council should
not refer the committee's recommendation to the voters. Ms. Walston said that the committee
asked the board for assistance, and the board submitted a letter regarding its recommendations.
The board was not entirely in agreement with the committee's recommendation, and the
committee did not come to final agreement, and forwarded the recommendations it did agree on.
She noted the memorandum on the topic from the Toxics Board, included in the meeting packet.
Ms. Taylor said that the text should not be referred for deletion because it was fairly recently
passed by the voters.
Mr. Meisner said he tended to support the motion. He thought it embarrassing and misleading to
have provisions in the charter that were no longer valid. People will read the charter and not
realize in the absence of footnotes that the section was invalid and cannot be enforced. He
supported the motion.
Mr. Kelly agreed with Mr. Meisner's remarks. He appreciated the points made related to the
validity of the item. He said that the text to be placed in a ballot measure regarded deleting and
adding items to the substance list. He recalled that the council agreed to delegate the authority
to add and subtract items form that list to the City Manager, and wanted to ensure now that the
council action to pass the motion would not override that delegation of authority. Mr. Lidz did not
believe that it would, and suggested the two actions were consistent.
Ms. Bettman did not necessarily think the changes being proposed were unproductive, but were
being offered to a relatively new charter amendment and were superfluous regarding the
implementation of the measure. Since there was a remote chance the State law could change,
she wanted to retain the concept. She liked the idea of footnoting the charter to ensure that
people were not confused.
Mr. Fart said that the issue addressed by the charter amendment should never have been
included in the charter in the first place. In terms of Ms. Bettman's argument regarding making
changes to a relatively new charter amendment, he believed that conditions had changed
regarding the wording of the charter, and it was important to bring things up to date. He
supported the motion.
The motion passed, 4:2; Ms. Taylor and Ms. Bettman voting no.
Mr. Kelly, seconded by Ms. Nathanson, moved to revise Section 14 with the
language proposed by the City Attorney, and add that item to the list of
noncontroversial items.
Mr. Kelly noted his own opposition to the motion, which he placed on the table in his role as
council president. He said the section in question addressed conflict of interest. While he
agreed the section needed clarification, he preferred the committee's text. The City Attorney's
change would strike the second sentence of the committee's recommendation, which stated
what the City Code must contain at a minimum related to the conflict. He said that the sentence
was vital because the use of the phrase "disclose the reasons" goes beyond State law. He also
thought it important that the charter reflect the fact that the community had a value around the
issue of potential and actual conflict of interest through the procedures placed in code.
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Ms. Bettman indicated opposition to the motion. She thought that the issue in question was
terribly important and wanted to see even stronger language related to conflict of interest in the
charter. She said that the legal counsel's recommendation took all conflict of interest provisions
out of the charter and codified it in ordinance. She thought that was a substantial difference.
Ms. Bettman believed the issue would be controversial and preferred to see something modeled
on what Salem had.
Mr. Lidz said that staff recommended the deletion of the second sentence not because he
thought it would be better to have the conflict of interest provisions in ordinance rather than
charter, but because the second sentence retains the problematic phrase "pecuniarily
interested," which had no commonly understood meaning. Mr. Lidz said the sentence also refers
to potential or actual conflicts of interest, which was in State statute. It was not clear from the
language whether the intent was to incorporate the State law interpretation of those terms or to
use something different. If it was to incorporate the State law interpretations, there was
potentially an argument that it locked in a current interpretation rather than a future interpretation.
Mr. Lidz said that staff had assumed there would always be a State Ethics Code in place to
address what was not covered by the ordinance or charter, and the question was the interplay
between the charter provisions and the State provisions.
Mayor Torrey expressed concern that the councilors most affected by the City's current conflict of
interest provisions were not present for the discussion. He questioned if the council was setting
itself up for the same discussion when those councilors returned, and asked if the discussion
should proceed. The council agreed to proceed.
Mr. Meisner said he had some discomfort with the council adopting a code of ethics through an
ordinance. He said the proposed charter text gave the council authority to enact a code of ethics
without being clear as to what was to be addressed in the code of ethics. He did not think voters
would be comfortable with that. He said that second sentence indicated the code of ethics went
beyond the concept of pecuniary interest. He asked what else would be included in such a code.
Mr. Meisner suggested that staff investigate what other communities that done regarding the
topic.
Ms. Taylor did not understand objections to the phrase "pecuniary interest." Mr. Lidz reminded
her of the council's recent vote on a resolution to transfer control of the AT&T cable franchise to
Comcast. Councilors with two shares of AT&T stock would have a pecuniary interest in that
decision. Ms. Taylor suggested that in such a case, the councilors should not participate in the
vote. She did not want to take language related to conflict of interest out of the charter. She
thought the language should be clear, and not just a statement the council should adopt a code.
She said that there should be something in the charter, and it should be as strong as possible.
Mr. Farr observed that he was not aware of all the stocks he owned through his 401(3)(k). He
agreed with Ms. Taylor that the language should be strong and not be subject to interpretation.
He also did not favor the language in front of the council, and asked what should be done next.
Mr. Lidz said that staff could draft some language to address the concerns expressed by the
councilors.
Mayor Torrey said that he had purchased land on West 11th Avenue and was taken to the State
Ethics Board because he voted to support Hyundai coming to town. He wanted to ensure that
such issues were addressed adequately. He wanted language in the charter but wanted it to be
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clear so people knew what they were getting into. He asked if councilors would be precluded
from voting in the case of a potential conflict of interest, or if the councilor would merely identify
that conflict. He agreed new language was probably needed.
Mayor Torrey pointed out that there were councilors who were covered by the Public Employees
Retirement System, and he doubted whether they knew what stocks was in their accounts.
Mr. Kelly said the discussion indicated the item was not a housekeeping item, and he urged the
council to vote the motion down. He agreed with Mr. Meisner that there must be other cities with
a strong desire for such language who had reached a reasonable legal resolution. He suggested
that the council direct staff to do some more work on the issue. He believed the Salem provision
was quite broad, and it was implemented through an adopted code of ethics. Ms. Walston
referred the council to that provision, which was included in the committee's final report.
Ms. Bettman agreed with Mr. Kelly. She said the City must find an approach that was
comfortable to the community and that did not discourage people from running for office. She
suggested the council postpone action on the committee's recommendation until it had further
discussion. She questioned why the legal counsel, rather than developing a clarification of the
term "pecuniarily interested" and how it would be applied to clarify the existing charter language,
instead proposed to winnow the text and take the concept out of the charter. She preferred to
maintain the intent of the language in the charter now to the best of the council's ability.
Mr. Farr left the meeting.
Ms. Nathanson determined from Ms. Walston that the council would see new text related to
conflict of interest before the end of the review process.
The motion failed, 5:0.
Mr. Kelly, seconded by Ms. Nathanson, moved to direct staff to take the
necessary action and prepare the required documents to place the
noncontroversial items on the November 2002 ballot.
Mr. Kelly noted the motion was specific to housekeeping items only and did not preclude the
council from adding items at a later time.
Mr. Meisner supported the motion without assuming November 2002 was the best time to place
items on the ballot. He wanted more information about other measures from other jurisdictions
that might appear on that ballot. Mr. Meisner called for consistency in the use of language,
noting some recommendations were referred to as noncontroversial and some as housekeeping;
the council needed to have more specificity about what was involved in each recommendation.
He also wanted to ensure the material to be placed on the ballot was readable and
understandable.
Ms. Taylor wanted all the items from the committee on the November 2002 ballot. She did not
think the issues should be postponed beyond that. She did not support a September 2002
election because she did not believe that people were paying attention at that time.
Ms. Nathanson also was interested in having staff recommendations on how the material could
be presented to the public in a form that was clear and obvious. She asked if the Public
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Information Officer would be involved in the preparation of those materials. She said that in past
years she would have recommended a citizen advisory committee to overview the ballot
materials.
Ms. Bettman supported the motion, and shared Ms. Taylor's interest in putting all the items on a
single ballot.
Mr. Kelly endorsed the procedural suggestions offered by other councilors. He said that
Springfield recently adopted a new charter and suggested it might be worth examining what
Springfield did to explain its charter changes to the voters.
The motion passed unanimously, 5:0.
Ms. Walston solicited other items for further staff follow-up.
Ms. Bettman had two issues for follow-up for possible inclusion in the charter: 1) enabling
language for a living wage ordinance; and 2) organizationwide "whistle blower" protection.
Mr. Meisner objected to discussing the living wage for inclusion in the charter given the council
had not discussed the issue yet and reached mutual agreement on the topic.
Ms. Taylor liked both Ms. Bettman's suggestions.
Ms. Nathanson did not want to direct staff to do further work without the expressed majority
support of the council. She asked if the work session was an opportunity to solicit follow-up work
from staff. Ms. Walston said yes.
The meeting adjourned at 1:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James R. Carlson
City Manager pro rem
(Recorded by Kimberly Young)
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