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Eugene City Council
Work Session
McNutt Room--Eugene City Hall
July 10, 2002
Noon
COUNCILORS PRESENT: David Kelly, Gary Pap~, Nancy Nathanson, Scott Meisner, Pat Farr,
Betty Taylor, Gary Rayor, Bonny Bettman.
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION
In the absence of Mayor James D. Torrey, Council President Kelly called the meeting to order.
A.WORK SESSION: Discussion of Recommended Amendments to the Eugene City Charter
Mary Walston of the City Manager's Office was present for the item. She indicated that the
council must take action by August 12, 2002, if the council wished to have the charter-related
amendments on the November 2002 ballot. It was possible to take action on August 14, but that
would be very close to the deadline for filing the measures.
City Manager pro tem Jim Carlson distributed the motion the council passed on July 8 related to
the City Attorney position.
Regarding the issue of a city auditor, Mr. Carlson noted that the City already conducted
performance audits and staff did not oppose such audits. They were a legitimate management
tool. He was concerned about having a performance auditor appointed by the council, thus
establishing a second position that was hired and supervised by the City Council. Mr. Carlson
believed that there were potential pitfalls in such a situation, and noted the continued opposition to
a city auditor expressed by former City Manager Jim Johnson, who had worked in such a
jurisdiction with such a position, and did not find the approach effective.
Mr. Carlson referred the councilors to an option distributed at their places that was similar to the
approach the council took to the charter amendment related to an in-house city attorney. He said
that the option developed by the Citizen Committee on Charter Review (CCRC) went extensively
into details, such as the types of professional proficiencies required. Staff recommended that
those not be included in the charter because they could change over time, and the charter was
intended to be more of a guiding document.
Mr. Carlson referred to a sentence in the CCRC recommendation that read, All audit reports are
public records. He asked City Attorney Jerome Lidz to comment on how the recommendation
conflicted with Oregon Public Records Law. Mr. Lidz anticipated there would be rare times when
there was an audit report on a topic that was not suitable for public disclosure. He cited as an
example an audit of the City's computer security system, or security at the airport. He reported
that technically, under State law, every document in the possession of a State agency or local
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government was a public record, but some were exempt from disclosure. Mr. Lidz believed that
most people, using a common sense interpretation of the term "public record," would read the
sentence and believe that they had access to those exempted records. He suggested that the
sentence in question could be deleted, or alternatively, the text included in Appendix W of the
council's notebook regarding the amendments could be used.
Mr. Carlson reported that the City Council formerly had an Audit Committee composed of
councilors that oversaw the details of the City's financial audit. The council discontinued the
committee because of a lack of interest.
Mr. Pap~, seconded by Ms. Bettman, moved to refer the proposed new
section creating the position of a city performance auditor to the ballot in the
November 2002 election.
Ms. Bettman, seconded by Ms. Taylor, moved to amend the motion by
revising the sentence that read "All audit reports are public records" to read
"All audit reports are public records and are subject to disclosures required
by and in accordance with State law pertaining to disclosure of public
records."
Mr. Kelly called for council comments and questions.
Ms. Nathanson preferred the City Manager's approach, which was to adopt text parallel to that
used for the City Attorney position, as opposed to the more detailed recommendation of the
CCRC.
Mr. Fart indicated support for the amendment but said he did not favor the main motion because
of the complexity of the text being proposed.
Responding to a question from Mr. PapS, Mr. Lidz said that the amendment ensured that audits
were subject to State law regarding public records. It did not add substance in that the
requirements for disclosure would be the same under State law, but it did provide assurance to a
member of the public reading the charter that the reports would be treated like other public
records, and not placed where they could not be reviewed. He believed that it would be a rare
instance in which a report was exempt from disclosure.
Mr. Pap8 opposed the amendment, saying he preferred the charter remain simple.
Ms. Taylor thought the amendment accomplished the simplicity Mr. Pap8 was seeking. Mr. Lidz
concurred.
Mr. Kelly believed the amendment was responsive to the legal counsel's concerns. He also
believed it provided philosophical assurance related to the public nature of the audit reports.
Mr. Carlson said that the amendment was actually a restatement of State law.
The motion passed, 7:1; Mr. Pap8 voting no.
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Mr. Fart indicated opposition to the amended motion, saying the audit process currently in place
was sufficient and met the needs of the citizens. He said that if something was to be placed on
the ballot, it should be simple.
Ms. Nathanson also opposed the motion on the table. She said that there were performance
audits and financial audits, and they had different purposes. The committee's focus was on
performance auditing. However, she believed the mechanisms forwarded by the committee, such
as an audit committee, were more appropriate for a financial audit. She noted that the Budget
Committee approved motions to fund an audit of City services, and she did not think there was an
pressing need to include the auditor position in the charter.
Mr. Rayor also preferred language that paralleled the text adopted for the City Attorney position.
He was concerned about the impact of the motion on the council/manager form of government.
He questioned getting into the level of education and the qualifications the auditor must have in
the charter, as there was no precedent for that elsewhere in the charter. He also questioned
establishing a committee through the charter. He indicated that he had developed an alternative
motion he would offer when appropriate.
Ms. Bettman said a city auditor was a means to get the City more respect. The council currently
had no way to evaluate how the City Manager was implementing City policy. There was no
independent oversight of the manager. She wanted to give voters an opportunity to vote for an
independent auditor supervised by the City Council. There would be value to the position only if
the auditor were independent. She believed an independent auditor would build credibility for the
council because the council now lacked the needed information to adequately supervise the
manager. She believed that voters would reject a watered-down version of a city auditor and then
the vote could be considered by some as justification for not having one.
Mr. Meisner said he would not support the motion or the approach suggested by the manager. He
did not recall that the committee was charged to examine the issue by the council. Mr. Meisner
said he did not find a great deal of public interest in the concept. He was very concerned about
creating an unfunded mandate for the council to fund at a time when it had no money. Mr.
Meisner said there was anecdotal information but no guarantee the City would save money from
having such a position. He was not impressed with the performance of such positions in the
jurisdictions of which he had knowledge.
Mr. Meisner wanted independent performance audits but believed that they could be secured
without creating a city auditor position. He added that the background materials the council
received clouded rather than clarified the issue as half of the materials did not address the
position of a performance auditor.
Regarding the issue of respect for City government, Mr. Meisner agreed that it was an issue,
adding it was an issue at the council table as it was clear that there were councilors that did not
respect or trust Eugene's city government. He did not think the position would enhance trust in
the City. He also referred to and commended the work being done by some City departments, in
particular the Department of Library, Recreation, and Cultural Services, as it attempted to do more
work with less resources.
Ms. Taylor did not think that the council knew what kind of job the executive staff did except
through secondhand reports. She said that Portland had a very successful performance auditor
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that saved that city money immediately. She emphasized that the focus of such a position was
performance as opposed to monetary savings. She pointed out the auditor would report to the
City Council, which was a way of being responsible to the public. Ms. Taylor said the performance
auditor would be able to respond to citizen questions about the way things work, and could find
ways to improve City operations. If the auditor position was responsible to the City Manager,
"there was no point to it at all." The person would feel constrained to give the manager positive
reports about issues and personnel.
Ms. Taylor asked Bob Cassidy and Ken Tollenaar of the CCRC why the committee recommended
the auditor position. Mr. Cassidy said the key reason was the independence of the position. The
CCRC felt the position would have an impact only if independent. He was sure the committee
would oppose a motion that modified its recommendation.
Mr. Pap~ asked if the committee's support for the proposal was unanimous. Mr. Cassidy said yes.
Mr. Pap~ thought the council should ask the voters if they supported an audit position. He hoped
the council put something on the ballot. He was concerned, however, about hiring a full-time
auditor to assist the council, which was not a full-time body. Mr. Pap~ was also concerned about
the impact on the council/manager form of government of having someone with independent
authority, and suggested having the auditor report to the audit committee.
Mr. Kelly believed that there was great value to having an independent auditor because it
promoted transparency, openness, and integrity in municipal government. He thought the
philosophical and psychological benefits worth the cost of the position. It could help demonstrate
that the council could be efficient and accountable prior to requesting tax increases from the
citizens.
Mr. Kelly did not think the manager's proposal worth referring to the voters as it could happen now
without charter authority. He emphasized the importance of the position's independence.
Speaking to Mr. Meisner, Mr. Kelly confirmed that the auditor was in the committee's original
charge from the council.
Mr. Kelly quoted from correspondence from the General Accounting Office in Appendix M of the
final report of the CCRC regarding the need for local government to take steps that ensure an
auditor was independent and free from organizational impairment.
Mr. Kelly believed there were jurisdictions where the concept worked well and others where it did
not, and suggested that the council not attempt to generalize from the experience of individual
communities.
Mr. Kelly said the CCRC recommended the audit committee as a way to more closely involve the
City Manager with the operations of the city auditor. He said that the budget proposal for a
temporary audit was a very different thing from a charter-established, ongoing employee
appointed by the council.
Mr. Fart was specifically concerned about an auditor appointed by the council as he feared that it
would become a political position. He did not want to see a council majority dictating the day-to-
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day operations of the City. He did not believe the council needed another employee. He opposed
the motion.
Ms. Nathanson quoted from the materials provided to the council by the CCRC on the topic, which
stated "Nonetheless, internal auditors should not report directly to the governing board except in
highly unusual circumstances, for example, evidence of fraud by top management." She said that
much of the information the council received from the committee was conflicting.
Ms. Nathanson asked how many people worked in the Portland city auditor's office. Mr. Carlson
believed there were a total of 56 people working in the Portland auditor's office.
Ms. Nathanson said she heard no clarity in the discussion about the nature of the position
envisioned. It was unclear if councilors were talking about a performance auditor or a financial
auditor. She believed the public wanted to know there was no fraud in municipal operations, and
there were financial audits to ensure that happened.
Ms. Nathanson believed that the organizational credibility of the organization relied in part on the
credibility of the council, and how well it managed the City's affairs. She asked how Mr. Carlson
would characterize the auditor role authorized through the fiscal year 2003 budget. Mr. Carlson
characterized it as an independent audit performed under contract by an independent auditor. Ms.
Nathanson thought such an independent audit would serve as well in terms of expertise and
independence. She said she had too many questions to support a solution when the problem was
not yet adequately described.
Mr. Rayor, seconded by Mr. Pap~, moved to amend the motion with the
following substitute text: "The City Manager shall appoint a City performance
auditor, subject to confirmation by the City Council. The performance auditor
shall conduct or cause to be conducted performance audits and may conduct
studies intended to measure or improve the performance of City functions.
The performance auditor shall regularly report the results of their work, as
well as the annual performance work plan to an audit committee consisting of
the Budget Committee or a subcommittee of the Budget Committee."
Mr. Kelly solicited comments on the amendment to the motion.
Speaking in support of his amendment, Mr. Rayor said it created a new city auditor position
subject to confirmation by the manager. He did not want to create a new committee through the
charter that could not be maintained because of funding or one that represented a duplication of
efforts.
Mr. Farr preferred Mr. Rayor's motion over the previous motion, but still questioned the need for a
performance auditor. He agreed with Ms. Nathanson's statement about the City's ability to hire
independent expertise. He thought it would be irresponsible, given the economic difficulties facing
the City, to refer such a position to the ballot.
Ms. Bettman considered council resistance to the concept of an internal independent auditor to be
"astounding." She said that such an auditor would assist the council in its evaluation of the
manager, and would help inform budget policy. She said that without council oversight, the
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motion on the floor was just a wordier version of the manager's proposal. She termed it "auditing
under the influence of the supervisory chain," and pointed out that it was the supervisory chain of
which the council wanted independent evaluation.
Ms. Bettman did not think the focus of the discussion was on financial malfeasance but rather on
overcoming the personal and professional alliances that existed among staff that make it
impossible for staff to move beyond those alliances. An independent auditor could look objectively
at the organization and provide the manager with an outside recommendation. She said that the
City had "insider management for decades and decades" and she found the auditor a timely
initiative. She would not support an auditor that was not independent.
Mr. Pap8 said that Mr. Rayor's motion answered the issue of whether the position was focused on
financial or performance auditing. He agreed that the City could easily contract with independent
financial auditors and there was no reason to increase the City staff for that purpose. He found
the motion to be a workable compromise. If a performance auditor was established, Mr. Pap8
wanted the council to see the auditor's reports, but he did not think he wanted the council to
manage the auditor.
Mr. Meisner opposed the motion for the reasons he opposed the previous motion. He suggested
that the notion that an internal employee auditor would not form alliances was ludicrous. If the
council wanted an independent audit, he did not see how that could be accomplished internally.
Mr. Meisner believed that if the council was dissatisfied with the performance of the auditor and
wanted to dismiss that individual, it could encounter great difficulty. He also thought it ludicrous to
assume that the council would hire a single auditor who would have substantive knowledge of
every program in the city; that person would have to hire or contract outside the organization for
assistance. Mr. Meisner said if the council wanted independent audits, it should contract for them.
Mr. Kelly expressed appreciation to Mr. Rayor for his motion, but said he could not support it.
Other than the confirmation by the council, the motion would add nothing to the charter that the
manager could not accomplish now.
Speaking to Mr. PapS's suggestion that the amendment to the motion clarified the nature of the
auditor, Mr. Kelly pointed out the text offered by Mr. Rayor was taken from the CCRC's proposal,
so it was as clear or as vague as that original text.
Speaking to Ms. Nathanson, Mr. Kelly said he wished he shared her optimism about the success
of contracted audits. He agreed they were valuable for specific purposes. He suggested that a
key difference between a council-directed auditor and manager-directed auditor was the
perception of independence. Mr. Kelly said that the council could direct the City Manager to
contract with an independent auditor, but then staff was responsible for writing and overseeing the
contract.
It was Ms. Taylor's perception that the focus of the discussion was on performance auditing rather
than financial auditing. She did not think the council had the ability to manage the organization
adequately now. She pointed out that performance auditors did not audit all the departments at
the same time, but rather one at a time. She believed that the issue was not one of fraud, but
having someone outside the organization telling the council if the City was run efficiently. The
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council had no way of knowing that now. She did not believe that the council had a way to
manage the manager.
With regard to her remarks that the council was not allowed to manage, Ms. Taylor pointed out
that the council had been asked not to contact the executive managers directly. She thought the
council was a long way from being able to ask the managers the reasons for what they did and
suggest alternative actions.
Ms. Taylor termed the amendment to the motion "useless" and suggested that the council was
setting itself up for a charter amendment proposal for an independent auditor from the voters.
Mr. Kelly solicited another round of comments.
Ms. Nathanson said she was "astounded" at the resistance to trying the trial performance auditor
approved by the Budget Committee. She noted that she had recommended in the past that the
Budget Committee form a subcommittee to do performance audits on a serial basis using the
service profile process. She suggested that the issue was not "why," it was "how." She
reiterated she had sought an increased level of oversight by the committee and council.
Ms. Nathanson pointed out that in May 2001 the CCRC received a report from staff regarding 16
internal audit projects undertaken over the past two years that resulted in cost savings, service
delivery improvement, increased accountability, additional efficiencies, or additional revenues.
She believed that the manager would be receptive to direction from the council for similar audits
for specific programs in the future.
Mr. Kelly called for further comments.
Mr. Farr said he would prefer to hire more police officers or parks staff as opposed to a city auditor
and the required staff. He believed that audits could be tailored to a particular activity.
Ms. Bettman said that the CCRC did not recommend that an auditor and staff be hired, just a full-
time auditor. She thought the discussion the council was having was confusing to the audience,
as councilors were confusing auditors and functions. She did not think that the trial auditor
mentioned by Ms. Nathanson was the same as what was being proposed though the charter
amendment. What was being proposed was an internal independent auditor, and that
independence was predicated on that position's being appointed and supervised by the City
Council.
Mr. Pap~ said that the council owed it to the community to put a measure on the ballot. He
supported the motion as a reasonable proposal that addressed his concerns regarding efficiency.
The amendment to the motion failed, 6:2, Mr. Rayor and Mr. Pap~ voting yes.
The main motion failed, 5:3, Mr. Kelly, Ms. Taylor, and Ms. Bettman voting
yes.
B.WORK SESSION: An Ordinance Concerning Special Events Parking and Amending
Section 5.285 of the Eugene Code, 1971
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The council was joined for the item by Public Works Parks and Open Space Division Manager
Johnny Medlin, Cultural Services Division Manager Rich Scheeland of the Library, Recreation, and
Cultural Services Department, and Parking Program Manager George Jessie of the Planning and
Development Department.
Mr. Medlin overviewed the staff recommendation, which was to remove the maximum amount that
could be charged for off-street special event parking and allow the City Manager to set the
amount. He noted that the current maximum of $3 was far below market for football parking at
and around Autzen Stadium. Events at the Cuthbert Amphitheater and events that employed
downtown parking structures would also be affected.
Mr. Kelly called for council questions and comments.
Mr. Fart determined from Mr. Medlin that the recommended option would remove the cap; Option
B would leave the cap but change it to $30. Mr. Farr asked if the change would affect the
Freedom Event, held on July 4. Mr. Medlin said that the City issued special permits for that event
that encompassed parking. The event would not be impacted, nor would other events where the
event coordinator, rather than City staff, controlled the parking. Mr. Fart asked what types of
events could command higher parking fees. Mr. Medlin cited home football games at Autzen
Stadium as an example.
Mr. Meisner favored staff-recommended Option A. It delegated authority to the manager and
allowed for administrative adjustments to reflect market changes. He hoped the option generated
additional revenue for the Parks and Open Space Division. He also hoped it provided some
additional protections for Alton Baker Park, where parking created significant damage to the park.
Ms. Bettman supported Option A but believed the revenues being generated should go through
the budget priorization process. She asked how night-time events were addressed, and
questioned what constituted a special event. She asked how the proposal would affect users
such as those at the BMX track, who leased land from the City for $1 and then charged for parking
and kept the money. There was no taxpayer accountability for how the money was spent. Ms.
Bettman said that the City was bestowing a benefit on one entity that others could not take
advantage of.
Ms. Bettman asked if the City would be recovering the cost of maintaining Hult Center parking
under the proposal.
Mr. Medlin said that the revenues collected were subject to the budget prioritization process. Staff
requested authorization from the Budget Committee for the use of the revenues. Regarding the
BMX facility, the City was currently in negotiations with the facility operators to establish a parking
arrangement that shared revenues with the City.
Mr. Medlin deferred the issue of the use of parking revenues from structured parking to Mr. Jessie.
Mr. Jessie said that currently, all special event revenues go to the Parking Fund and are available
for maintenance and operations of the structures. He said that the parking rates are based on
market rates rather than on maintenance estimates.
Mr. Rayor wanted to see a minimal amount of space allocated for bicycle parking. He wanted
maximum fees that encouraged rather than discouraged bicycle use. He called for an analysis of
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how the ordinance encouraged or discouraged bicycle use. Mr. Carlson pointed out that the
purpose of the ordinance regarded parking fees for motorized vehicles. The council would create
an incentive for bicycle use by removing the $3 limit and allowing more to be charged for parking.
Mr. Rayor feared that the cost of bicycle parking would rise as well as a result of the cap's
removal. Mr. Carlson said that the City did not specify what event sponsors using City facilities
charged for bicycle parking. Mr. Rayor thought that when event sponsors used City facilities they
should not create a situation that discouraged bicycle use.
Mr. Meisner recommended Mr. Rayor request a work session on the topic.
Mr. Medlin said that currently, the City does not charge for bicycle parking. He said that the
bicycle parking associated with football games was part of the transportation demand
management (TDM) plan with the University of Oregon, and was operated by the 20-30 Club. He
said that the City could discuss the issue with the University in the context of negotiations
regarding the TDM plan.
Ms. Nathanson supported Option A as recommended by staff. She asked how oversized vehicles
were addressed by the proposal, and if the City charged variable rates. Mr. Medlin said that if a
vehicle took up multiple parking spaces, the vehicle operator was required to pay for them. All
spaces were marked and easily identifiable. Ms. Nathanson questioned how the person collecting
the parking fees would know that a vehicle would be taking up multiple spaces.
Responding to a question from Ms. Nathanson, Mr. Medlin said that the cost of parking was
included in the cost of the special event permit if the event operators wished to manage their own
parking. He cited Art in the Vineyard as an example of such an event. Event operators can
decide whether to subsidize parking with gate revenues, for example.
Mr. Pap8 indicated support for both options and asked what market City staff considered when
setting parking fees. Mr. Medlin said staff considered the local market for events when
considering event fees. Mr. Scheeland added that the Cultural Services Division looked at
market rates in the northwestern states and found that in terms of structured parking, $3 was at
the Iow end of the market. He noted that he had met with the Hult Center's resident company
managers that morning to inform them that the council was contemplating the action before it
because of the impact on those companies' patrons. There was no objection from the resident
companies at this time. Mr. Pap8 asked if the City examined private lot rates. Mr. Scheeland said
no.
Ms. Taylor confirmed with Mr. Sheeland that the proposal encompassed events at the Cuthbert
Amphitheater where parking demand was expected to be heavy and must be managed. Ms.
Taylor did not think that the City should charge for parking for cultural activities because it
discouraged people of modest means from attending such events. She also opposed charging for
parking at the Eugene Celebration. She thought that bicyclists should park for free because that
use benefitted the community.
Ms. Taylor preferred not to take action now. She did not support the higher cap associated with
Option B.
Mr. Kelly noted that action today would merely place the item on an public hearing agenda. He did
not support either option before the council. He agreed there was a problem to be addressed,
particularly with regard to Autzen Stadium events, but did not think either option solved the
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problem in the manner he preferred. He shared Ms. Taylor's concern about the cost of event
parking for City facility events. He said that Eugene was not Portland and $3 was on the Iow end
in Portland. He pointed out that the council rejected an increase in the Hult parking maximum fee
two years ago. Mr. Kelly wanted to see an ordinance that distinguished between events at City
facilities and events elsewhere. He did not object to charging for parking at Cuthbert but objected
to raising it to $5, saying it would generate ill will for little revenue gain. Regarding incentives for
alternative modes, he pointed out that if one's choice of mode was bus transit, it was very difficult
for transit users to rely on the bus when attending evening Hult Center events, because the buses
stopped running when it was time to go home. He suggested that staff draft an ordinance that
included two different maximums related to the two different categories staff had contemplated.
Mr. Kelly also had concerns about the way that the Eugene Celebration and First Night were
defined, saying "they were as good as City events" even though there was no longer City
sponsorship. He reiterated his argument regarding ill will and little revenue.
Mr. Carlson said that because Option A included a fee-related administrative action, the
administrative order would come to the council for its review and comment.
Mr. Pap~, seconded by Mr. Farr, moved to affirm the proposed special event
off-street parking ordinance Option A, and direct the City Manager to proceed
with the scheduled public hearing regarding the ordinance.
Ms. Taylor indicated opposition to the motion. She did not approve of having public hearings in
the middle of the summer because people were out of town.
The motion passed 6:2; Ms. Taylor and Mr. Kelly voting no.
The meeting adjourned at 1:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James R. Carlson
City Manager pro rem
(Recorded by Kimberly Young)
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