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Eugene City Council
Work Session
McNutt Room, City Hall
May 29, 2001
5:30 p.m.
COUNCILORS PRESENT: Betty Taylor, David Kelly, Scott Meisner, Gary Rayor, Gary Pap~,
Bonny Bettman.
COUNCILORS ABSENT: Nancy Nathanson, Pat Fart.
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION
Mayor James D. Torrey called the meeting to order.
A.Work Session: Crowd Control and Use of Force Policy Presentation
Maurice Denner, Carla Newbre, John Brown, Floyd Prozanski, Tim Laue, Angie Sifuentz, and
Andrea Ortiz of the Police Commission were present for the work session. Mr. Denner noted that
Dr. Munir Katul, chair of the commission, could not be present and sent his regrets.
Mr. Denner said the Police Commission had met over a period of 15 months and held two public
forums regarding the topics of police use of force and crowd control. Many groups and individuals
participated in the review of the policies. Mr. Denner introduced Captain Swensen and retired
Lieutenant EIIwood Cushman, who were present to answer questions. He thanked Sergeant Jay
Shadwick for his work with the Use of Force Committee. He commended the department for its
support of the commission. Mr. Denner also thanked Jeannine Parisi, the commission's staff.
Mr. Brown said the commission's recommendations regarding crowd control dealt with three
policies: General Order 801.3--Civil Disturbances, General 801.5--Field Forces, and General
Order 801.10--Public Assemblies and Demonstrations. The committee's work was guided by the
Community Values Statement, which supports the rights of all to free speech and peaceful
assembly while balancing those rights with the responsibility to use them peacefully and
acknowledging the responsibility of the police to carry out enforcement measures in a proportional
way. Policy changes focused mainly on conflict prevention strategies that would allow an event to
continue peacefully.
Mr. Prozanski, chair of the Use of Force Committee, noted the commission's recommendations
regarding use of force policies as they related to General Order 901.1--Use of Force Generally,
General Order 901.2--Control Techniques and Less Lethal Weapons, and General Order 901.3--
Oleoresin Capsicum (OC) Aerosol Spray. He said the committee reviewed use of force in the
context of both routine and crowd control situations. The committee based its recommendations
on the community expectation that police officers should not use more force than necessary to
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safely and effectively accomplish their objectives. Mr. Prozanski said the recommended changes
would require some modification to existing policies to reduce the health and physical risks to
suspects and officers, and would refine the criteria for use of less lethal weapons and pepper
spray.
Mr. Prozanski concluded his remarks by saying the commission recommended that the
department implement a reporting form to track the use of force and provide statistical information
to help assess department training needs. He invited questions.
Mayor Torrey clarified that the purpose of the work session was not to make changes to the
commission's recommendations, but was an opportunity for the council to express its opinions
about the recommendations.
Mr. Pap~, a member of the commission, thanked the Use of Force Committee. He noted the long
hours Police Commission members had spent reviewing the policies. Mr. Pap~ thought the
community would be well-served by the policies. He said that the policies had also been reviewed
by the Human Rights Commission (HRC), which was comfortable with them. He noted the
presence of Andrea Ortiz of the HRC and said that he would welcome her comments.
Mr. Pap~ thanked the members of the commission for their service.
Ms. Bettman also thanked the commission for its work. She asked Mr. Denner to distinguish
between the recommendations in the findings and the policies. Mr. Denner said the findings
represented the consensus of the commission as a whole. The policy recommendations target
the day-to-day operating proceedings of the department.
Mr. Kelly also thanked the commission. He thought it had done much good work. He endorsed
the use of the Community Values Statement, the focus of some policies on de-escalation, the
option to bring a situation into compliance, and the key of proportional response.
Mr. Kelly was concerned that the words of the Community Values Statement and some of the
words in the policies would not translate well in guiding day-to-day operations. He said that he
had asked Dr. Katul and Chief Jim Hill what effect the policies would have had on the April and
June 2000 protests had if they had been in place the previous year. Dr. Katul had responded that
it would be difficult to speculate what would have happened. He said that Chief Hill did not think
the policies would have fundamentally altered what happened. Mr. Kelly found that "very
troubling."
Mr. Kelly cited policies he believed would have changed the police response to the June 17-18,
2000, incidents, such as matching the level of offense with the appropriate response and
considering the urgency of the situation and immediate threat to public safety. He said those
policies seemed to argue against what he termed the "serial arresting" and the rather urgent
actions he viewed in the video tapes of those incidents. Mr. Denner responded that the
commission had not evaluated department employee performance in any specific situation as it
was not a review board, making it difficult for him to evaluate the policies in terms of the difference
they might have made. However, he thought changes had been made that addressed the
situations raised by Mr. Kelly.
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Also in response to Mr. Kelly, Mr. Brown said he was present at the June 17-18 incidents and
believed that if General Order 801.10 had been in existence and information regarding compliance
had been communicated to the protesters, it might have made a difference. He did not know if
such information was provided by the police at that time, but now it was in policy.
Addressing Mr. Kelly's question, Mr. Prozanski said as long as the individual was passively
resisting arrest, neither impact weapons or OC spray would be used to effect the arrest. The
findings and recommendations also suggested that the department consider other alternatives to
force before it would utilize any type of tools against political protesters who, for example, were
sitting on the ground and locking arms.
Mayor Torrey asked what happened when a person was asked twice to leave the middle of the
street, refused to do so, and then went limp when the officer attempted to arrest him; what affect
did that have on officer's ability to complete the arrest? Mr. Prozanski said that it should not
impact that ability; at that point, the officer would take the steps necessary to effect the arrest. If
the individual abandoned passive resistance and moved to the status of active resistance, officers
may need to consider other options. Mr. Denner added that the commission was "raising the bar"
in terms of training standards for officer performance.
Mr. Prozanski clarified that the police would still be able to use control holds on a passive resister
to gain compliance.
Mr. Meisner thought Mr. Kelly's question difficult to answer given the differing natures of protest
events. He referred to the Community Values Statement and said that each time he had a
question about the policies he returned to the statement. He thought it the most astonishing thing
the commission had done as he believed it was difficult to come up with values for a community
like Eugene, and everything the commission had done had flowed from that statement and was
consistent with it. Mr. Meisner said the statement addressed the responsibilities of both the police
and citizens. He was pleased with the recommendations and had no changes to offer; he merely
wanted to see them implemented.
Mr. Rayor arrived at the meeting at 5:57 p.m.
Ms. Taylor had the same question as Mr. Kelly. She suggested the answer to his question
depended on the officers present. She asked if the commission considered a policy banning the
use of pepper spray and tear gas for all individuals except criminals. Ms. Newbre said the
commission discussed that possibility, but the department had made a convincing argument that
officer safety was of paramount importance in effecting an arrest. Because officers must have
discretion, especially in dynamic situations, and because of evidence that the use of OC spray
prevented injuries to both officers and those being arrested, it was difficult for the commission to
place tighter restrictions on its use and feel comfortable with that decision.
Also in response to Ms. Taylor, Mr. Prozanski added that the officer needed to have a tool to gain
compliance. Alternatives such as batons were more dangerous and resulted in abrasions and
broken bones. The commission had asked the department to continue to research and monitor
the use of OC spray both in Eugene and other parts of the country. He thought OC spray was a
viable tool that needed to be accompanied by recommendations for its appropriate use, and the
commission had developed recommendations to that end.
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Ms. Taylor said she understood the use of OC spray in cases where a person was hurting
someone or committing a crime, but she did not understand it in cases where the crime in
question was "just being somewhere" and no force was necessary. Mr. Prozanski said that
officers were trained to base their response on the type of resistance they faced. OC spray was
not to be used punitively. Unless there was resistance, OC spray would not be used.
Mr. Rayor referred to Attachment G, General Order 901-2, and suggested that just as long-range
impact weapons were not to be used on people in danger of falling, OC spray should not be used
on people in danger of falling, for example, from trees. Mr. Prozanski said that as the strict
definition of static resistance could include someone holding onto a tree, the policy would provide
for the use of OC spray, if appropriate. The department made it clear that before the decision was
made, some different criteria would be reviewed by the officer in command. Mr. Prozanski said
that the department did not promise it would never happen, but could not offer a situation in which
OC spray would be used against protesters in trees. He emphasized that the policies were not
"set in stone" and would be modified as warranted. Mr. Prozanski added that the department
uses the Department of Public Safety Standards & Training (DPSST) use of force continuum,
which does not distinguish passive from static resistance. The commission recommended, and
the department accepted the recommendation, that the department separate the two types of
resistance.
Mr. Rayor expressed concern that he had seen officers tackling people during protests the
previous year and he did not see that type of arrest discussed in the policies in the packet, and he
did not see where it fit into the use of force continuum. In the situation he mentioned, two women
were carrying a banner, and one was tackled. He did not understand that. Ms. Newbre said that
one of the commission's problems was that it was not a review board, so it had to "dance around"
the issues of whether what was done was appropriate. The commission could use those
incidents to guide it but could not specifically address incidents. She said that the department
could not have a different set of policies for enforcement of civil disobedience than it did for other
arrests. Mr. Prozanski suggested that Mr. Rayor's focus was on effecting the arrest, which these
policies did not address. He said he could only assume that the officers involved in the arrest
witnessed by Mr. Rayor were directed by Command staff to take action, and at this distance and
time he suggested the question was "out of our league."
Mr. Kelly agreed that the commission was not a review board, but he thought that incidents should
inform the commission's decisions. Ms. Newbre responded that the commission attempted to
address those incidents contextually. She cited the commission's use of phrases such as
"proportional response." To tighten the police response further removed much of the discretion the
police needed. She said the police had heard the commission's concerns about enforcement
options and would address them through training and different management strategies.
Ms. Parisi referred Mr. Kelly to page 2 of General Order 801-10 and said that several commission
members, including Ms. Bettman, had worked to get policy changes included that addressed his
concerns. Page 2 included the statement officers needed to take into consideration, when
contemplating enforcement, what the department's normal enforcement posture for a similar
offense would be. Page 3 of that order stated that officers would ensure that enforcement actions
would be appropriate to the situation and the conduct of the individuals involved. Mr. Kelly
expressed appreciation for the answer, saying it argued that things would have been different
during the June 2000 incidents if the policy had been in place.
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Mr. Kelly said he generally agreed that the policies should apply to a broad range of situations, but
he also thought general orders 901-1 and 901-2 should be revised to include a subsection that
addressed public assembly demonstrations and civil disturbances. He suggested that a static
peaceful resister in a political situation could be allowed to make a statement by holding onto a
railing for a certain period of time before being arrested, which might diffuse the situation. Mr.
Prozanski thought the commission had taken a step in that direction in the changes it made. He
noted that the commission had also asked the department to develop a new policy related to the
use of bicycles by patrol and crowd control staff. Mr. Denner added that the policies had been
revised to ensure that Command staff considered its response in proportion to the event.
Mayor Torrey asked that the changes to the policies be provided to the council in legislative
format.
Mr. Pap~ returned to the issue of the situational aspects of the policy. He said that he witnessed
some of the events of June 2000 and saw some of the video tapes. His contacts from citizens
indicated the community was in general very supportive of the police response to the protests or
indicated a belief that the police were not forceful enough in dealing with the protests.
Mr. Pap~ agreed with Mr. Prozanski that the policies were not set in stone, and represented a start
in the right direction. He commended the citizen involvement that went into the commission's
policy formulation and hoped it would continue.
Mr. Rayor acknowledged that the policies represented an attempt to target the police response to
protests in terms of the totality of events, and he appreciated that. He thought the policies were
positive in nature and, if applied by the officers in the field, would produce a positive result. Mr.
Rayor said he was concerned about effecting the arrest and had a difficult time separating that
concept from the policies before the council. He thanked the commission for its efforts.
Ms. Bettman said that there had been good collaboration between the commission and Police
Department and progress had been made. She advocated for a different approach to peaceful
political resistance, which she thought should be differentiated from criminal activity. She said the
department did not want different categories of people to be affected by different policies, but Ms.
Bettman thought that it would be an ongoing issue that needed more discussion.
Mr. Kelly could not reconcile the Community Values Statement regarding peaceful and respectful
assembly with the fact a control hold could be used to take a passive resister in custody with what
he termed "no parameters at all." Referring to the memorandum from Chief Hill responding to
questions he had asked earlier (page 74 of the meeting packet), Mr. Kelly found the proposed
added policy language related to news media access to be "positively chilling" and requested a
response from the commission and the department. Mr. Denner said that the policy language
came from the description of civil disturbances in State statute. Because a civil disturbance
constituted a violation and rises to criminal behavior, the order to disperse must be given as a
resolution to the offense. Mr. Kelly requested a written response that cited State statute.
B.Action: Innovative Development
The council was joined by former Planning and Development Department Director Paul Farmer.
He provided the council with a slide show presentation regarding two projects that demonstrated
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innovative development and design excellence: Chatham Village and Hares Island, both located
in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Mr. Farmer described his own experience living in Chatham Village.
Councilors asked questions clarifying the details of the presentation.
Mr. Meisner thanked Mr. Farmer for his escort through the developments in question during his
visit to Pittsburgh, and also thanked him for showing the council the choices that could exist for
housing, both rental and owner-occupied. He noted that Chatham Village was a totally market-
driven development.
Mr. Meisner asked Mr. Farmer if he was aware of similarly innovative developments that had
failed, and if there was a common theme to those failures. Mr. Farmer acknowledged failures, but
said that they failed for different reasons; some were design failures, some were financial failures,
and others failed to create a sense of neighborhood.
Mr. Kelly asked if Mr. Farmer perceived a way to use the skills that existed locally on a smaller
scale to achieve the sort of innovation he had seen elsewhere. Mr. Farmer said that he thought
the City would have something to offer a local developer if it had a couple of good sites, and staff
could then work to determine which local builder or developer could make the sites work. He said
that the City needed to reject what he termed the "same old, same old suburban." He praised the
infill development that had occurred in Portland and particularly in Seattle, and suggested that the
council and Planning Commission consider visiting Seattle to view some innovative infill
developments of the type the Land Use Code Update would make possible.
Mr. Pap~ determined from Mr. Farmer that there had been considerable public funding ($24
million) dedicated toward Hares Island. The development had been located on a brownfield,
which required clean-up. Mr. Farmer said the largest contributor had been the State of
Pennsylvania.
Mayor Torrey asked Mr. Farmer how the City should proceed in addressing the issue of the
Eugene Water & Electric Board pole yard and the new federal courthouse complex. Mr. Farmer
felt it important for the long term that the pole yard be moved. He suggested it was merely a
matter of timing in determining how the redevelopment would occur.
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C.Items from Mayor, Council, and City Manager
Ms. Bettman reported that a forum on redistricting would occur on June 4. She said there were
two sessions scheduled at the Eugene Water & Electric Board Training Room. The first session
would be from 5:30 to 7 p.m. and the second session would be from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m. She
reported that staff had accepted her recommendation to employ Samoan Circles for the second
session. The Citizen Involvement Committee supported the recommendation. Ms. Bettman
briefly described how a Samoan Circle worked.
Mr. Rayor had no items.
Ms. Taylor had no items.
Mr. Kelly reported he had attended a conference sponsored by the National Business Incubation
Association, and would provide a written report to the council about his experience. He asked the
council to begin to think of the kinds of partnerships the council could support if it chose to pursue
incubation as part of its economic development strategies. Mr. Kelly described a typical incubator
and some of the uses that could be located in an incubator. He said that he could not think of an
obvious sponsor in the community at this time, but believed the City, Chamber of Commerce, and
Metropolitan Partnership all had an interest in the topic. He had information to share with
potential sponsors.
Mr. Pap~ thanked Mr. Kelly for raising the topic. He suggested the University of Oregon Business
School and Lane Community College might be sponsors for an incubator or could provide
expertise.
Mr. Pap~ expressed appreciation to the City Club and League of Women Voters for their
recommendations regarding redistricting.
Mr. Meisner had no items.
City Manager Jim Johnson said that Supplemental Budget No. 3 would include a request for
contingency funds related to the City's work with PeaceHealth. He estimated a cost in the range
of $15,000 to $20,000.
Mayor Torrey said that he had recently met with five representatives of randomly selected
businesses to discuss what was going wrong and what was going right in the city. A downtown
restaurant owner had expressed concern there was little activity on the mall in the summer.
Events that could have occurred at the Hult Center and that might have generated downtown
traffic were booked at the Cuthbert Amphitheater.
Mayor Torrey referred to a recent traffic fatality at a Iow-income housing development. One of the
issues of concern to residents of that development was the lack of a space for children to play.
He had visited the site and it was totally surrounded by residential land in the County's jurisdiction.
He asked Mr. Johnson if he and County Administrator Bill Van Vactor could discuss the situation.
Mr. Johnson said yes, and noted that Lieutenant Pete Kerns of the Eugene Police Department
had attended a community meeting at the site.
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Mayor Torrey suggested that the City install signs downtown stating that parking at the Hult Center
garage after 5 p.m. was free if there was no event. He said that downtown businesses might be
willing to help fund those signs.
D.Work Session: Discussion of Charter Review Issues
Mary Walston of the City Manager's Office requested further direction from the council's interest
regarding the Citizen Charter Review Committee's charge as it related to the Eugene Water &
Electric Board (EWEB).
Mr. Meisner identified the issue of elected EWEB commissioners serving on City board and
commissions, and whether that constituted a conflict. He also said the issue of the board's
relative authority had come up during the discussion of the telecommunications measure, when
the EVVEB commissioners questioned if the council had the right to question the measure. There
were also questions related to the requirement for placing items on a ballot. Mr. Meisner said the
issue of EVVEB as it related to urban development seemed to be coming up more often, as
demonstrated by the recent discussion on innovative development. He suggested the committee
discuss whether it is appropriate to have two distinct public agencies in same charter. If the
existing structure was to continue to exist, Mr. Meisner believed it needed more clarity. He
thought the committee should also talk about efficiencies, legalities, issues of ethics, and issues
of community interest. He called for a fairly broad discussion. Mr. Meisner suggested a staff
search of the council minutes where EVVEB was mentioned to determine if other issues had come
up that should be addressed through the charter review.
Ms. Bettman agreed with Mr. Meisner about the issue raised by the telecommunications
measures.
Ms. Bettman confirmed with Ms. Walston that the committee had a public comment opportunity at
every meeting. She noted that there would be additional opportunity for comment at the council
level.
Mr. Pap~ concurred with many of Mr. Meisner's comments. He asked "what do we want EWEB to
do and how do we want them to do it?" He said that the authority of the utility was an issue for
him as he found the provision of water and electricity key to most citizens. He wanted the
committee to discuss whether EVVEB should be inside the City organization or be a public utility
with its own charter. If it was to be part of the City, Mr. Pap~ thought the two organizations'
cultures needed to be brought closer together. He noted the charter requirement that EVVEB
provide an annual report to the council. He did not recall receiving such a report. He said EWEB
did not seem to believe it was part of the municipality. Mr. Pap~ thought the charter language
needed to be clarified in general.
Mr. Johnson indicated that EWEB submitted a written annual report to the City.
Mr. Kelly said the functional relationship between the City and EWEB was more important to him
than the structural relationship, although he did not object to the committee studying that
structure. He had an initial negative reaction to adding another department to the City. Mr. Kelly
wanted the committee to discuss how to better define the relationship between the City and
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EWEB without being too specific. He wanted to determine what organization and functional
relationship would lead to the best water, power, and urban development for City residents.
Ms. Taylor had not thought the EWEB issue was of paramount importance for the committee to
discuss. She thought the committee had plenty of work to do now. She suggested the topic of
EWEB should come up later if it came up at all. She thought EWEB was doing a good job.
Mr. Rayor agreed with Ms. Taylor. He pointed out that when EWEB proposed the
telecommunications measure it received thorough scrutiny and conditions imposed by the council
on it probably could not be met. He thought the utility was doing a good job providing water and
electricity. Mr. Rayor thought it was best the City maintain the current relationship. He thought
there was danger in moving away from the status quo. He said there must be 90 years of
legislative history regarding the relationship between EWEB and the City, so he found it hard to
believe that the relationship between the two bodies was unknown. Mr. Rayor thought the
existence of two separate agencies created inherent checks and balances.
Mr. Johnson asked if the council was interested in the topics that were mentioned. The council
indicated, by straw vote, majority support for the committee to proceed with the topics identified by
different councilors. Mr. Rayor and Ms. Taylor did not support the straw poll. Ms. Bettman
indicated that the effort did not have to be a high committee priority.
Responding to a question from Mr. Pap~, Mr. Johnson said that the City and EWEB did not have
the same personnel policies or wage and salary schedules. He confirmed that there was some
competition for employees, but not a lot. Mr. Pap~ thought the two organizations were lacking a
similar culture, and one was needed. Mr. Johnson noted that for 80 years, the two organizations
were separate by charter; the charter did not envision that the two entities would be housed in a
single organization. Mr. Pap~ suggested that two separate charters might be appropriate.
The meeting adjourned at 7:49 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James R. Johnson
City Manager
(Recorded by Kimberly Young)
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