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Eugene City Council
Special Public Hearing
Council Chamber--777 Pearl Street--Eugene, Oregon
November 29, 2000
9p.m.
COUNCILORS PRESENT: Nancy Nathanson, Pat Fart, Scott Meisner, David Kelly, Gary Pap~,
Gary Rayor, Bonny Bettman.
COUNCILORS ABSENT: Betty Taylor.
CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING
Council Hearing on Appeal of Ballot Title for the Referral of the Smoking Ban Ordinance
Mayor James D. Torrey called the special meeting of the Eugene City Council to order. He
announced the purpose of the meeting, which was an appeal of the ballot title for the referendum
petition for Ordinance 20215, prohibiting smoking in taverns, bars, cocktail lounges, and bingo
parlors. He indicated that those wishing to speak must limit their remarks to the issue of the
ballot title, not the merits of the ordinance proposed for referral or the referral.
On November 27, 2000, a written appeal to the ballot title was filed by Pat Cookson, representing
the American Cancer Society and Dr. Anthony DeSiena. In the appeal, the petitioners state the
following: "Our main concern with the baflot explanation relates to the definition of "adult only"
taverns, bars, cocktail lounges and bingo parlors. Specifically, we feel the voting population
needs to understand whether or not this baflot measure would include ''adult only" bars or
cocktail lounges that are attached to restaurants frequented by customers of afl ages.
Secondhand smoke exposure in such attached establishments would continue to be a health risk
for persons of afl ages, not just individuals over the age of 21."
City Manager Jim Johnson introduced the item, noting that City Attorney Jerome Lidz was
present to provide a short overview of the ballot title and to answer questions. Mr. Lidz briefly
reviewed the purpose of each of the three parts of the ballot title--the caption, the question, and
the explanation-- noting each part was mandated by Oregon statute.
Mr. Lidz reported that following the receipt of the appeal he had drafted another ballot title, copies
of which were provided to the council. The council also had a copy of the ballot title initially
prepared by the City Attorney's Office that was the subject of the appeal. The initial ballot title
was captioned Smoking Ban; the second ballot title was captioned Prohibit Smoking in Bars,
Taverns, Cocktail Lounges, and Bingo Parlors. Mr. Lidz noted that the initial ballot title had been
corrected to change the effective date of the ordinance to July 1, 2001.
Mr. Johnson suggested that the original ballot title be labeled "A" and the second ballot title
drafted by Mr. Lidz be labeled "B".
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Responding to a question from Mr. Meisner, Mr. Lidz said that the question should plainly phrase
the chief purpose of the measure so that an affirmative response to the question corresponded to
an affirmative vote on the measure. He confirmed that the appeal concerned a referendum, not
an initiative. If the proponents of the reference obtain a sufficient number of signatures before
the ordinance would take effect, the ordinance will not take effect. He acknowledged that other
jurisdictions addressed the question differently, but there was not much guidance in the law. Mr.
Lidz believed that the appropriate question to ask the voters was, "Shall the ordinance be made
effective?"; a vote for the referendum would be a vote for the ordinance.
Mr. Rayor said he found the text prepared by the City Attorney's Office confusing. He would
prefer to have the ballot title indicate it was a repeal of a smoking prohibition, and the explanation
be enhanced with the history of the council's actions.
Mayor Torrey opened the public hearing.
Pat Cookson, 2350 Oakmont Way, said the appeal was filed because of concern that the title
would be misunderstood. She thought a history of the ordinance might be helpful to the voting
public so it understood what it was being asked to vote on, as well as a history of the process
that led up to the ballot measure. She thought that there might be confusion over the concept of
referendum and repeal. Ms. Cookson stressed that people need to understand if the measure
does not pertain to bar/restaurant combinations or only to bars, or the definition of an "adult only"
establishment of the types mentioned. She said that was not addressed in the materials she had
seen.
Ward Chase Fairbom, 5050 East 13th Avenue, said that the explanation seemed somewhat
fuzzy only because the law was passed in three ordinances on two separate days. Regarding
bar/restaurant combinations, Mr. Fairborn said the second ordinance passed by the council would
require those with such an establishment to provide a physical barrier between the bar and
restaurant. Part 3 of the law did not pertain to places with open walk-throughs between two
sides. According to the second ordinance, people with such establishments would have to
provide a two-door breezeway or wall between the bar and restaurant.
Mr. Fairborn suggested that either the question or explanation be enhanced by the statement that
the smoking ban was a workplace safety smoking ban to help the opposition feel more
comfortable that the ordinance addressed the general public and people who worked in such
establishments. He suggested "Should the City's workplace smoking ban extend to include bars,
taverns, cocktail lounges, bingo parlors, and other places where people over the age of 18 only
can go?" Otherwise, Mr. Fairborn felt that the question and explanation were clear and concise
as written. He commended the City Attorney's Office for the work done on the title.
Dr. Anthony DeSiena, 1940 Parliament Street, disagreed with Mr. Fairborn about the issue of
separation between attached bars and restaurant. He said if Mr. Fairborn's statement regarding
the issue were true, why were restaurants mentioned in Part 3 at all? He said that the way the
ballot title was written, it was not clear as to what happened under a yes vote or a no vote.
There being no other requests to speak, Mayor Torrey closed the public hearing.
Mr. Kelly asked if the petition circulation needed to await the appeal. Mr. Lidz said no. The
petition supporters could have begun to collect signatures already.
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Mr. Kelly said he would like input from legal counsel as to how the council could best clarify the
ambiguity about bar/restaurant attachments. He did not think any of the versions of the ballot title
addressed the subject. Mr. Kelly believed there was clear direction in Ordinance 2 that
encompassed bar/restaurant attachments, and asked how best to clarify the issue. Mr. Lidz
suggested that the council consider passing a subsequent ordinance. He said he had
considered the appellants' comments regarding the ambiguity surrounding bars that are inside
restaurants, but the purpose of the referendum was to vote on the ordinance, not to interpret the
ordinance or another related ordinance.
Mr. Kelly noted that the form of the ballot title was dictated by State law and the issue before the
council was how to ensure the text was most straightforward. He liked the approach to the
affirmative nature of the question the City Attorney's Office had taken in preference to, for
example, the approach taken by Central Point. Mr. Kelly said that the revised ballot title
developed by Mr. Lidz was an improvement over the previous title as it mentioned the ordinance
and was straightforward about the consequences of the vote.
Mr. Rayor preferred the caption and question for "B" and the explanation for "A".
Mr. Meisner preferred the question for "B" and objected to the caption in "A" as misleading. He
said he liked the explanation for "A," suggesting the addition of text from "B" regarding the
council's adoption of the ordinance as an important piece of history. He agreed with Mr. Lidz that
the ballot title was not the appropriate place to clarify the question of attached bars/restaurants.
He thought the lack of clarity unfortunate and hoped the council could act to rectify it soon.
Ms. Nathanson preferred the caption, question, and explanation in "B." She supported changing
the explanation with text indicating what a citizen's vote meant.
Ms. Nathanson, seconded by Mr. Pap~, moved that the City use version "B"
for ballot title question and explanation.
Mr. Fart thought the council was over complicating a relatively simple issue. He said the
referendum would make it to the ballot and he did not think it mattered what the council did to
change it.
Responding to a suggestion from Ms. Bettman that the question be modified to read "Shall
prohibition on smoking in public work places be expanded?", Mr. Lidz was not sure that
accurately reflected the council's ordinance and he believed that the phrase could be
misinterpreted upon first reading.
Mr. Pap~, seconded by Ms. Nathanson, moved to amend the motion to use
the question in "A" and caption in "B."
Responding to a question from Mr. Kelly regarding the question in "A," Mr. Lidz thought the "A"
version was legally sufficient.
Mr. Pap~, seconded by Ms. Nathanson, moved to call the question. Roll call
vote; the motion passed, 6:1; Ms. Bettman voting no.
The amendment to the motion passed, 6:1; Ms. Bettman voting no.
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Mr. Rayor, seconded by Mr. Fart, moved to amend the motion to revise the
text of the explanation in "B" as follows (struck text deleted): "If the voters
approve this measure, +~-~' ""'~ ..... '~-'~"-+ '~';" ~' ...... ~'"+;"~' +~'~'
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bars, taverns, cocktail lounges, and bingo parlors as it is in other public
places and places of employment. The prohibition would take effect on July
1, 2001. If the voters reject this measure, the code amendment would not
~ the City Code would continue to allow smoking in bars,
taverns, cocktail lounges, and bingo parlors."
Mr. Rayor explained that it was his intent to remove what he considered legalistic jargon from the
explanation.
Ms. Bettman did not support changing the explanation because the council had adopted a
caption nearly identical to the question and voters needed some information to base a decision
on.
Mr. Meisner supported the amendment, saying it simplified the explanation and did not eliminate
anything of substance.
The amendment to the motion passed, 6:1; Ms. Bettman voting no.
Mr. Kelly moved to amend the motion by revising the third sentence to read
"If the voters approve this measure, the council action will be sustained and
smoking will be prohibited bars, taverns, cocktail lounges, and bingo parlors
as it is in other public places and places of employment. The prohibition
would take effect on July 1, 2001. If the voters reject the measure, the
council action will be nullified, and the City Code would continue to allow
smoking in bars, taverns, cocktail lounges, and bingo parlors."
Mr. Kelly's amendment died for lack of a second.
The main motion passed, 6:1, Ms. Bettman voting no.
The meeting adjourned at 9:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Jim Johnson
City Manager
(Recorded by KimberlyYoung)
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