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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC Minutes - 05/26/99 WS MINUTES Eugene City Council McNutt Room--City Hall May 26, 1999 5:30 p.m. COUNCILORS PRESENT: Scott Meisner, Nancy Nathanson, Pat Farr, Bobby Lee, Betty Taylor, David Kelly, Gary Rayor, Gary Pap8 Mayor James D. Torrey called the council to order at 5:30 p.m. CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION A. Items from Mayor, City Council, and City Manager Ms. Nathanson reported on a meeting she had recently attended of the National League of Cities Telecommunications Committee. A broad spectrum of communities was represented. She reported that she would be chairing a group writing the league's policy on universal access. Ms. Nathanson stressed the importance of universal access and the need to ensure that, like rural communities, no neighborhood in a city was left behind. She likened telecommunications access to a vital utility. Ms. Nathanson addressed the Stewart Road closure, noting it had been appealed twice. She suggested the closure was a beginning rather than an end, and asked City Manager Jim Johnson to bring the council information about the process for determining the road's size and design, and when those improvements would be scheduled. Mr. Rayor said that he would leave the council meeting early to attend a neighborhood meeting in his neighborhood in Ward 1 to discuss the upcoming Willard School closure and the subsequent disposition of the building. He wanted to ensure the public and neighbors had input into the process and knew what was planned for the site. Mr. Rayor indicated he would provide the council with frequent updates about the process. Mr. Kelly noted the council's receipt of a letter from the Chamber of Commerce, Citizens for Public Accountability, Lane County Homebuilders Association, Friends of Eugene, and 12 neighborhood leaders requesting that the Lane Council of Governments publish a draft TransPlan summary in tabloid form. Planning Director Jan Childs had contacted him to let him know there was support for the idea among the three jurisdictions' planning directors and Lane Council of Governments staff, and had indicated that such a tabloid could be published. Mr. Lee raised the issue of University Park, now closed because of crime-related concerns. He said that the park closure and condition continued to be an issue for the neighborhood. There MINUTES--Eugene City Council May 26, 1999 Page 1 5:30 p.m. was some neighborhood interest in trading the park for land elsewhere. He invited the thoughts of other councilors. Mr. Farr reported he met with Ron Chase regarding the Human Rights Commission's charge from the council. They had agreed a public forum was probably not necessary, that the tax assessor's investigation should be the principle investigation. They would continue to meet weekly to review Mr. Gangle's progress. Mr. Farr believed that they would recommend the council's joint meeting with the commission follow the already determined schedule. Mr. Pap~ arrived at the meeting at 5:40 p.m. Ms. Taylor endorsed the publication of the TransPlan summary and asked if a news release identifying the projects in TransPlan could be released to more specifically engage the public. Ms. Taylor asked about the status of the Police Commission and if the council would review the applications for the commission. Mr. Johnson said yes, adding that the applications were public information. Mr. Torrey said that he would be interviewing 24 candidates and would recommend a group of eight candidates to the council. He said that the commission would include a very diverse group of people. Mr. Kelly suggested that copies of the applications be left in the council office. Ms. Taylor expressed concern that the Council Committee on Intergovernmental Relations (CCIGR) was assigning priority positions to bills for which the council had no policy. She said the council's energies were better directed toward issues for which it did have a policy. Ms. Taylor believed that such bills should be brought to the entire council for discussion. Mr. Meisner endorsed the publication of the TransPlan summary but suggested the summary needed to be given some context with the inclusion of the policies and principles driving the plan. He believed that the inclusion of specific projects might have merit. Mr. Meisner suggested it would also be useful for readers to include information about what TransPlan did not do, and to call attention to the fact it should be read in conjunction with related City documents such as the Arterial and Collector Street Plan. Regarding Stewart Road, Mr. Meisner said that he agreed with Ms. Nathanson about the need for more information but did not want to "jump the gun" on the design and scheduling. Regarding the design, he was concerned about the street's projected designation as a collector street given the wetlands owned by the Bureau of Land Management that border a large section of the road and the residential uses on the eastern end. Mr. Johnson said that new Library, Recreation, and Cultural Services Department Director Angel Jones would start work at the City in July. Mr. Torrey said that he had an opportunity to attend the neighborhood meetings related to sports facilities and fields at high schools. The meetings were at Churchill, Sheldon high schools and Cai Young Middle School. He said that many creative ideas were discussed. 2.Mayor's Youth Leadership Program MINUTES--Eugene City Council May 26, 1999 Page 2 5:30 p.m. Mr. Torrey introduced the youth representatives present. He said that at the request of the South Eugene High School principals, he had recently visited the high school to visit with the students informally during lunch hour, and three students had asked him if the councilors would consider similar, informal visits. He urged councilors to contact Margaret Wilkenfeld of the City Manager's Office if they wished to arrange for such a visit. Zake Zerzan and Nate Baker represented Marist High School. Mr. Zernan requested that a stop light be placed at the intersection of Kingsley and Goodpasture Island roads. He said that the traffic at the intersection was heavy, inconvenient, and dangerous. He said that Marist High School had 656 students, faculty, and staff traveling the road to and from school at roughly the same times. Increasing development in the area placed an additional demand on the road. He suggested the best way to deal with tragedy was to prevent it. Mr. Baker added that the school did not want to see a fatal accident be the catalyst for a stoplight. Kristin Garcia of New Roads discussed the problem of runaways. She said that the majority of students at New Roads were runaways. She said that runaways were not bad people. They were frequently forced to leave their homes because of physical, mental, and sexual abuse. Ms. Garcia said that in her experience, it was difficult for minors to secure help from the authorities. She said that people in fear deserved help. She asked the council to consider the issue she had raised. Peter Reed and Kuwasia Hutchinson represented North Eugene High School. Ms. Hutchinson discussed the dropout rate at her school. She said that many students were enrolled in school and were not actually attending school. Those students were not concerned about themselves and others were not concerned anymore either. Ms. Hutchinson said that she had also been contacted by students concerned about discrimination at school that was not merely racial or gender focused but directed against students who were different. She discussed the discrimination free zone planned at the school the next year, but cautioned such a zone was not a cure but only a sign. Ms. Hutchinson requested the council's input on creating programs that would actually make a discrimination-free school possible. Kim Edwards and Val Blair represented Sheldon High School. Ms. Edwards discussed the changes in class rotation and the institution of longer classes at her school. She attended three classes each day that were each 83 minutes long, which was too long for many students' attention spans. Ms. Edwards said that classes were much longer and fewer electives were being offered. She had to take two classes offered at the same period, which was difficult. Ms. Edwards requested the council's assistance. Ms. Blair added that her school's principal said the longer classes were needed to save money. She suggested that more money be directed to more teachers and shorter classes. Marshall Clement represented South Eugene High School. Mr. Clement discussed the Youth Voice rally at the Federal Building and said that more than 50 percent of the students did not attend school that day because of fear. He had to convince his mother to allow him to attend. Mr. Clement spoke of the inadequacy of counselors at the schools. He said that counselors helped to identify at-risk youth who might be prone to violent acts. He asked the council to consider ways to fund more counselors. Mr. Clement noted that Willamette and South Eugene high school students have met to discuss more collaboration in their presentations to the City Council and to ensure that the same people gave presentations to the council next year. MINUTES--Eugene City Council May 26, 1999 Page 3 5:30 p.m. Lindsey Rogers and Eric Turner represented Willamette High School. Ms. Rogers responded to a question asked during her previous report by Mr. Farr regarding students opinions about the Safer Schools Program. She said people reported to her that they felt safer with the program. She said the same was not true of the security guards at the school, who were not highly trained. She felt that the district's security could be better. Mr. Turner discussed the SOS (Save Our Schools) campaign being conducted by Willamette High School students. He said that Jeff Colbin of the University of Oregon had visited the high school and identified two ways to fight school violence: 1) to direct more school funding from the State to the schools to underwrite programs for troubled and disruptive students; and 2) to severely restrict the access such youth have to guns. Mr. Turner said that students staffed an SOS booth at Bethel's 50th anniversary event to encourage students to write letters to the State legislature in support of those strategies; about 200 letters were written. He said that the SOS campaign had joined with the efforts of the Ribbon of Promise campaign. Mr. Torrey asked for questions from the council. Responding to the Marist representatives, Ms. Nathanson said that traffic signals are very expensive, which was one reason some neighborhoods wait a long time to get one. Responding to Ms. Hutchinson's assistance in dealing with issues of discrimination, Ms. Nathanson asked if the Human Rights Commission had been in touch with the students and, if not, that there be direct help and communication between the commission and students. Mr. Kelly thanked the students for their presentations, saying it was refreshing for him to see positive examples of youth. He concurred with Ms. Nathanson regarding the traffic signal costs and noted the general lack of financing for street projects. He said that he was aware of the traffic situation at the location in question and shared the students' concerns. Mr. Johnson indicated he would submit the Marist students' traffic signal request to the Public Works Department. Mr. Meisner said that some of the topic raised by the students could be pursued by the collaborative effort mentioned by Mr. Clement. He said students from other schools may have ideas of value all could share. Mr. Rayor noted that the security guards mentioned by Ms. Rogers were employed by the Bethel School District rather than the City. He emphasized the importance of school funding to him. He believed that the City could make the greatest contribution by creating an atmosphere that enabled people to pay their taxes without difficulty, and by interacting with the districts on policy issues. Mr. Pap8 suggested that the council may have a response to the Marist students about the traffic signal by the time they next presented to the council. Mr. Farr said that the Budget Committee recommended to the City Council that it maintain the Safer Schools Program. He believed that the school district-employed security guards in the schools might do more than the students were aware of. He suggested that the City investigate how much the districts spent on security and explore the possibility of a joint approach to security that might be more effective, such as using Community Service Officers instead of private security firms. Regarding the level of school funding as it related to class size, he said that the council had little impact on such issues since the passage of Ballot Measure 5 and the loss of local MINUTES--Eugene City Council May 26, 1999 Page 4 5:30 p.m. controls. Mr. Fart said that there were other efforts underway to augment available funding, such as Bethel's alternative school for troubled and disruptive students. Mr. Lee asked if the Police Commission could examine the Safer Schools Program and recommend other programs that could provide direct services to schools to create a safe school environment. He noted that on Friday, the anniversary of the Thurston High School shooting, 50 percent of students had not attended school out of fear of being shot. He hoped the Police Commission would work collaboratively with the districts on the issue in a way that produced results. Regarding Ms. Garcia's remarks on runaways, Mr. Lee noted the work of the Council Committee on Homelessness and Youth, and suggested that Ms. Garcia attend the next committee meeting to offer input. He asked that Ms. Garcia's telephone number be forwarded to Richie Weinman of Planning and Development Department so he could notify her of the meeting. He asked Ms. Garcia to involve other New Roads students as well. Ms. Taylor emphasized the importance of smaller class sizes and more teachers. She noted her own experience with schools increasing the number of administrative staff while reducing the number of teachers. She suggested the students also go the school board with their concerns. Regarding the issue of discrimination, Ms. Taylor agreed that it was a problem with both students and teachers, but she did not have answers to offer for it. She thanked the students for their presentation. Mr. Torrey thanked all the students, and in particular the students who were seniors, for their participation, and assured them that the council found the information they shared very helpful. He indicated he passed the information on to the districts. Mr. Torrey said that as important as adequate counseling was to high school students, it was equally important for grade school children to have access to counselors so they can avoid some of the problems faced by older youth. Regarding the dropout rate, Mr. Torrey said that the council could have an impact on the school boards and should "knock the walls" down with the other jurisdictions to discuss how to provide services to citizens, particularly youth. He said that the community does not provide training alternatives for students who were not college-bound, and noted that on his recent trip to Russia he had learned of the technical training provided to Russian youth who did not intend to seek higher education. 3.Ratification of Council Committee on Intergovernmental Relations Actions of May 5, 1999, and May 17, 1999 Mr. Meisner moved, seconded by Ms. Nathanson, to approve the actions of the Council Committee on Intergovernmental Relations as set forth in the meeting minutes. MINUTES-Eugene City Council May 26, 1999 Page 5 5:30 p.m. Mr. Pap~ asked why the committee opposed House Bill 3304. Tim Black, City Manager's Office, said that the police department indicated the bill would create additional administrative duties and there was insufficient staff to handle the vehicles that would be impounded as a result of the bill. Mr. Meisner noted that bill would mandate forfeitures. Ms. Nathanson added there was a question of fairness to the family of the person forfeiting the vehicle and no information about where the money involved would go. Mr. Meisner moved, seconded by Ms. Nathanson, to amend the motion by removing House Bill 3304 for reconsideration by staff and committee. The motion passed unanimously, 8:0. 4.Work Session: Council Goals Two-Year Action Plans Mr. Torrey noted that staff was seeking clarification on the level of effort desired for implementation of three council action priorities identified by the council on April 21, 1999: 1) continue implementation of community policing; 2) outreach to communities of color and disadvantaged; and 3) authorize/appoint charter review commission. To place the council's conversation regarding community policing in some context, Mr. Torrey said that the Public Safety Coordinating Council (PSCC) was considering a new revenue source and was doing in-depth research about the desires of County residents. The PSCC would not make a firm decision until the results of that research were known. If the City Council wanted to raise money for community policing, it would need to determine when it wished to ask the voters to support the program. He said that the only time the City was likely to be able to place such a measure was in November 1999, given the requirement for a double majority for a property tax measure and the likelihood other ballot measures would generate interest in the election. Mr. Torrey said that he had encouraged the PSCC to consider placing its measure on the September ballot, which would allow the City to place its measure on the November ballot. Otherwise, he said, the City would have to wait until November 2000. Mr. Torrey said that the County was concerned about the size and timing of any City ballot measure related to policing. Mr. Torrey believed that the community would require any PSCC levy to include a substantial level of funding for prevention programming; he did not think the City's partners shared their belief. At the request of Mr. Torrey, Mr. Johnson provided an update on the most recent discussions of the Public Safety Coordinating Council regarding revenue options. He reviewed the recommendations of the PSCC's Financing Subcommittee, which included a revenue-sharing proposal with all units of local government in Lane County. He said that the PSCC had discussed the recommendation and agreed it wished to do more research. A subcommittee of the PSCC had put together a survey and the survey was now in progress. The survey was intended to test whether voters believed a surcharge on corporate and personal income taxes was a good way of financing public safety and related services. Mr. Johnson said that four focus groups would be convened after the survey was done, so at the end of that process the elected officials should know more about what residents favored. Mr. Meisner asked if the PSCC subcommittee was discussing an income tax surcharge applicable to all tax payers. Mr. Johnson said that the subcommittee did not get to that level of detail. MINUTES--Eugene City Council May 26, 1999 Page 6 5:30 p.m. Mr. Meisner questioned how the PSCC could separate the enforcement and prevention elements of public safety. He was also concerned that the survey did not address the subject of serial tax levy requests. Mr. Rayor left the meeting. Mr. Torrey asked the council to discuss what it wished to see in terms of the City's community policing program. Mr. Kelly noted the inclusion of a list of current community policing efforts on page 166 of the meeting packet, followed immediately by a statement that indicated each of the items would constitute a drawdown on existing resources. Captain Thad Buchanan, Eugene Police Department, responded that the intent was to convey that continuing the activities drew away from the operational portion of the organization, or what could be considered traditional policing. He said that "drawdown" was probably not the most accurate descriptive term. Mr. Kelly suggested that the language implied that the issue of priorities and a community policing focus was not settled for the department. He was troubled by the implication that the community policing tasks took away time from the department's "real job," as opposed to being part of the department's "real job." Captain Buchanan said that the work load was a "juggling act." The traditional demands for responses to calls for service and other ongoing, daily activities were balanced against the activities involved in the implementation of community policing. He added that the implementation had caused actual changes in the day-to-day duties of supervisors and managers. He said that for example, lieutenants in the watch command had traditionally focused on activities on the streets during an eight-hour shift; now in addition to those duties, they had 24- hour responsibility for a geographical area of the city and must operate new programs that benefitted the sector. Mr. Johnson added that key to the issue was that the City wanted to do more, and wanted direction from the council. Mr. Kelly acknowledged that the implementation of community policing would take increased funding, and he would not be supportive of a PSCC measure that did not include revenue sharing. He asked Captain Buchanan to consider what adjustments could be made operationally within existing resources. For example, a reevaluation of the Rapid Deployment Unit could be done. He liked the examples of other activities that could occur, suggesting that they largely reflected a "cops on the beat" approach and better connected the police to the community on bicycles and on foot. He did not think the sector approach had the chance to get off the ground because the area coordinators and beat officers had changed so frequently, eliminating the familiarity and continuity needed by neighborhoods. Mr. Kelly said that aside from the list of activities, the general tone of police and community interaction is important. He said that he frequently heard complaints about police-citizen interactions and believed it indicated some issues with the general tenor of communications. Mr. Fart did not think the level of community policing provided now was adequate. He said that like other services, the police had to get the appropriate service to the place needed at the time needed. The City could ensure that occurred by putting the right kinds of officers on the beat. He said that the location of various public safety stations throughout the community would also assist in the implementation of community policing. MINUTES--Eugene City Council May 26, 1999 Page 7 5:30 p.m. Ms. Nathanson suggested that rather than sit and wait for calls, police in vehicles should drive around the community. While she favored several items on the list of additional possible activities, her bottom line was her belief that community policing was increased police visibility and more familiarity with officers. She did not think the police currently had the needed level of visibility. She said she heard from community members when they saw police officers participating in the community in a positive way. She called for an increased police presence. Mr. Johnson observed that on the average shift there were eight to twelve police vehicles on the street at any given time, and there were 50 square miles to cover in Eugene, making it tough for those eight to twelve police vehicles to be seen. Ms. Nathanson agreed. She believed it supported her belief that to get more visibility, Eugene needed more police officers. She said she would also like to see the Fire Department staff in the neighborhoods making rounds. Ms. Nathanson said that all City employees out in the community could be engaged in identifying potential hazards or nuisances and reporting them to the appropriate department. Responding to a question from Ms. Taylor, Mr. Johnson confirmed that there were more than eight to twelve officers on duty on an eight-hour shift. Ms. Taylor called for more police foot patrols and bicycle patrols. She said that she would like to know the police officer for her neighborhood, and preferred that person would walk or bicycle. Acknowledging she was not sure if the perception was accurate, Ms. Taylor said that there was a community perception too many officers respond to a call for service. She wanted to see less of the Rapid Deployment Unit, and more collaboration between police and other departments to work on the nuisance enforcement issues mentioned by Ms. Nathanson. Mr. Torrey asked Mr. Lee to comment on the goal area related to outreach to communities of color. Mr. Lee said that he had worked extensively with the staff on the progress the City was making, and was satisfied with the progress, and suggested that because of time constraints, the council move onto the next topic. The council agreed. Mr. Meisner suggested that given the issue of retention, which was regularly brought up, the council consider mentoring and support programs for new employees. Mr. Kelly asked for the council to hear about the results of the outreach activities, and what action items or feedback come from those activities. The council discussed the goal area related to the Charter Review Commission. Mr. Meisner clarified that his initial intent was that the commission first focus on compensation. Mr. Pap~ wanted such a commission to examine the City's management structure as well as council compensation. Mr. Kelly suggested that the commission could focus this year on compensation and the following year on structure. Ms. Taylor supported the formation of the proposed charter commission. She wanted to see a review of the entire charter, and suggested the council involve the original members of the committee that drafted the charter. She wanted to know how they thought the charter worked, but she envisioned a more long-term effort. Mr. Johnson noted that if the council wanted a measure on the November 1999 ballot, the commission needed to complete its work by the August meeting recess. Mr. Meisner suggested it was unlikely the council would spend much time reviewing the work of the commission; he believed it was more likely to refer the work of the commission to the voters. Given the available data, he did not think the commission process would take too long. MINUTES--Eugene City Council May 26, 1999 Page 8 5:30 p.m. Mr. Torrey suggested that each councilor nominate two members for appointment to the commission. He believed that would speed the process. Mr. Kelly concurred. He suggested that the council also consider one single broader outreach mechanism, such as a newspaper ad soliciting input. Mr. Meisner said that the commission could conduct a forum. Mr. Kelly agreed. Mr. Fart endorsed the mayor's suggestion because he believed it would help to get broader geographic representation on the commission. Responding to a question from Mr. Torrey, councilors agreed that the persons they nominated did not have to live in their wards. Responding to a question from Mr. Torrey, the council agreed that the commission would initially focus on council and mayor compensation. Mr. Kelly said that commission members should be notified that they may be asked to take on the additional task of discussing the City's charter. Mr. Pap~ said he would like to see the same members continue on the commission so that people with knowledge and background can move on to the more complex issues. Mr. Lee, Mr. Farr, and Ms. Taylor concurred. Mr. Meisner said he did not object to keeping the same commission, but the council may want to change the composition of the group or increase the number of members. Ms. Nathanson moved, seconded by Mr. Meisner, that a subcommittee of two councilors develop a recommendations regarding the composition of the Charter Review Commission in a manner similar to the ways the Mayor's Parks and Open Space Committee and Mayor's Library Advisory Committee were formed. The composition of the membership of the commission would be reviewed and approved by the council. Subsequently, the mayor would solicit names from the councilors and proposed a commission for the council's approval. Mr. Torrey recommend that Mr. Meisner and Ms. Nathanson as council officers serve as the subcommittee. The council concurred. The motion passed unanimously, 7:0 Because there was additional time available, the council returned to the subject of community policing. Mr. Meisner said that unless the council was clear about attitude and what it wanted to accomplish through community policing, the effort would be meaningless. He did not want community policing programs to create a drawdown on other services and he believed it had in his neighborhood, where the enforcement officer took on area coordinator status and had less time for enforcement. The neighborhood felt the lack. Mr. Meisner said that three substations have such different focuses that he was unsure the City was being clear about what it wanted to accomplish with them. He said that community policing would not be effective if the police officer was aloof and uninvolved in the neighborhoods they traveled through. He said that it did not matter if an officer was on a bicycle if they made no contacts. He emphasized that clarity of purpose and change of attitude were essential to the successful implementation of community policing. MINUTES--Eugene City Council May 26, 1999 Page 9 5:30 p.m. Mr. Fart said the council needed to keep in mind both the uniformed officers and the support services, such as Mac McFadden's outreach to campers. He said that those services helped free up police for other services at a relatively Iow cost. Mr. Pap~ said he wanted more police on the streets and in the substations, but thinks that requires coupling those efforts with more community awareness, such as through the neighborhood watch programs. He said that all citizens needed to take responsibility for safety in the neighborhood and learn how to coordinate efforts with the cops on the beats and the substations. He suggested that the City could use existing resources to employ the fire stations as safe houses, increase its efforts with the neighborhood watches, and educate the community with the result that there may be fewer people in uniform but more "eyes on the street." Mr. Torrey asked if prevention and youth programs were addressed in another goal. Mr. Kelly said yes. He said that, if after school was an important time to reduce crime by juveniles, what did the council propose to do to address it. Mr. Kelly referred Mr. Torrey to the action plan priority calling for the development and implementation of a comprehensive youth program in coordination with other agencies. The action was listed under the category "Safe Community." Mr. Johnson said that the police did not separate the social service or youth activities from community policing, and given that PSCC was unlikely to include funding for prevention programs, did that mean the council needed to consider funding for such programs in any money measure it put before the voters. Mr. Torrey noted his concern about the lack of prevention funding and youth programs in the PSCC recommendation. He had been frustrated because Eugene residents had clearly supported those elements of the past levy related to prevention. He believed there would be major differences between what the PSCC would propose and what the council would want. At some point in time, the council might have to state that there were certain elements a money measure must have, or Eugene would seek funding for its own measure. Mr. Lee expressed concern that the conversation the council was having was so different from the discussions the PSCC members were having. He said that the two groups were in two camps with different visions. The PSCC was looking at community policing on a more system-wide level, and the council was talking about community policing at the neighborhood level. Mr. Lee said that for him to represent the council adequately, it may need to make a decision soon. He said he wanted the council to have information from the PSCC to give it more context for its decision making. Mr. Meisner said that the council needed a matrix of data illustrating service gaps to make a decision about what to put on a ballot or about how to evaluate the PSCC measure. He called for a comprehensive and coordinated approach, saying he would not support an ad hoc, piecemeal approach. Mr. Kelly concurred, saying that if such an approach took more time, he supported that. Mr. Kelly noted his concurrence with the mayor's remarks related to the basis of Eugene's support for the previous levy, saying a shift to a focus on system structural capacity issues only could cause the measure to fail again, this time because Eugene voters opposed it. He urged the council's representatives to the PSCC to remind the PSCC that Eugene felt strongly that public safety was a continuum of services. MINUTES--Eugene City Council May 26, 1999 Page 10 5:30 p.m. Mr. Fart commended Mr. Johnson and Mr. Torrey for their regular meetings with school districts, as he believed it resulted in the districts and City working more closely together. Any community policing effort needed to include the school districts. Mr. Lee urged the council to attend the next PSCC meeting. He said that the issues involved were very complex, and the words "systematic" and "coordinated" mean different things to different people. The meeting adjourned at 7:32 p.m. (Recorded by Kimberly Young) MINUTES--Eugene City Council May 26, 1999 Page 11 5:30 p.m.