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<br />Mr. Kelly remarked that he liked all five designs. The asymmetry of the Whole Block 1 appealed to him. <br />He thought it would be interesting to consider the cost of moving twice and razing the existing City Hall. As <br />for the location of the police patrol, he thought having dedicated elevators could facilitate a shift change and <br />other movement needs. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor preferred the half-block design. She thought the least inviting aspect of the present City Hall <br />was the Municipal Court and the people who sat outside of it. She also did not understand why the police <br />were different from the fire personnel. She felt that having stations located in the different areas of the City <br />would facilitate EPD’s ability to meet public safety needs. <br /> <br />Mr. Papé was undecided about the police issue, but he thought there should be some police presence <br />downtown. Regarding the verticality of the building, he said while it might increase costs it would also help <br />people to easily find the services in the building. He added that he was uncertain that the Permit Information <br />Center (PIC) needed a whole floor. <br /> <br />Mr. Hacker remarked that the design team considered the dilemma regarding the Municipal Court. He <br />related that one idea was to provide a separate entrance for “them.” <br /> <br />Mr. Papé said a lot of the traffic into the court area was due to people paying fines. <br /> <br />Mr. Pryor was disturbed by comments about the courts that referred to the people waiting for municipal <br />court as “them.” He reminded everyone that “them” is really us. <br /> <br />Mr. Pryor averred that form must follow function. He was dependent on the input from the experts, such as <br />Police Chief Robert Lehner and others, for the recommendation about the best configuration. He added that <br />it was conceivable that the building will ultimately need more space. He recommended considering which <br />building design could most easily be added to. <br /> <br />Mr. Hacker responded that the half-block site would be more difficult to add on to. He said there was <br />always the option that the expansion would happen on another site. <br /> <br />Mr. Poling said the Council Chamber should be the main focus, architecturally. He commented that one of <br />the reasons he liked the Whole Block 3 design was that there was some area to expand into. <br /> <br />Regarding the issue of a police presence at city hall, Mr. Poling favored having it. He noted that the Chief <br />had spoken of changing to a precinct concept of public safety. He echoed Mr. Pryor’s suggestion that the <br />Chief be consulted on the design. <br /> <br />Mr. Poling noted that the half-block site under consideration was under private and County ownership. He <br />asked if the private owners had been contacted. Mr. Penwell replied that he had contacted two out of the <br />three; one said to let him know when the City was interested in talking to him and the other merely said it <br />was an interesting idea. He said the County indicated that whatever the City and County did had to be <br />mutually beneficial. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />MINUTES—City Council October 18, 2006 Page 4 <br /> Workshop <br /> <br />