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Mr. Lee moved, seconded by Mr. Fart, to amend the motion by removing the words <br /> "spray can" from the motion. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly said that what the council would be doing if the amendment were approved was to add yet another <br />program. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson wondered how many kids in the community were doing spray can art. <br /> <br />Mr. Meisner said he opposed the amendment, but if it passed the council's intent about what kind of program <br />it was looking for with the RFP should be made very clear. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor spoke in favor of the amendment. <br /> <br /> The motion to amend passed, 5:2; with Mr. Kelly and Mr. Meisner opposed. <br /> <br />Addressing a question from Mr. Lee, Mr. Johnson said this type of program had never been attempted by the <br />City, although there had been similar programs (in the Department of Youth Services) that used art as <br />therapy, etc. Mr. Lee ascertained that perpetrators could, at the court's discretion, be mandated to participate <br />in the program. Mr. Lee said he was supportive of the approach and hoped to see some exciting ideas to <br />consider. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly asked that the RFP include some of the recommendations made in Jim Evangelista's e-mail. He <br />said he favored "predominantly" because this was a reaction to spray-can art/graffiti. He noted that nothing in <br />his motion prevented the use of public space. Mr. Kelly said he also did not wish to go outside the budget <br />process but raised this in context of the ordinance. <br /> <br />In response to a question from Ms. Nathanson, Mr. Johnson said that if the City found the problem spreading <br />despite the program, a chance would likely be given to allow for a dialogue with the perpetrators. Ms. <br />Nathanson said if the purpose was to decrease the amount of unwanted graffiti and the program was not <br />doing that, the money should be redirected to programs that do work or could be stopped very quickly if it <br />were not working. Mr. Johnson said the program could be stopped very quickly if desired. <br /> <br /> Ms. Nathanson moved, seconded by Mr. Papd, that the amount not exceed $15,000, <br /> and that the quarterly assessment include findings that unwanted graffiti was not <br /> significantly increasing or spreading. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly said approving the lessor amount set the program up for failure, adding that the second phrase was <br />too general and difficult to apply. <br />Mr. Papd said he supported the amendment for financial reasons, adding that the council might choose at any <br />time to increase support to the program. <br /> <br />Mr. Meisner said he opposed the motion, explaining that he could support the amount but not the <br />contingency. <br /> <br /> The motion failed, 2:5; with Ms. Nathanson and Mr. Papd voting in favor. <br /> <br /> Mr. Papd moved, seconded by Ms. Nathanson, to reduce the amount to $12,000. The <br /> motion failed, 2:5; with Ms. Nathanson and Mr. Papd voting in favor. <br /> <br />MINUTES--Eugene City Council August 11, 1999 Page 3 <br />5:30 p.m. <br /> <br /> <br />