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Councilor Taylor spoke to Mr. Kamis' remarks, saying she had personally opposed the City's prostitution <br />exclusion zone. She said downtown was everyone's neighborhood and people had the right to be <br />somewhere and should be able to move about freely. There were already remedies for criminal violations. <br />She suggested it was better to have such people downtown than out in the parks or by the river. She <br />thought all kinds of people should be welcome to gather and interact downtown. <br />Councilor Clark said when the subject of indigent support was first raised, he had thought it was a <br />reasonable approach but had subsequently discussed the issue with Municipal Court Judge Wayne Allen, <br />who had some concerns about the precedent set by the concept. He recommended that City Manager Ruiz <br />invite input from the judge. <br />Councilor Clark recalled that he had been willing to add elimination of the pre- hearing exclusions as an <br />amendment and indicated he would offer that as a part of the motion that was eventually placed before the <br />council. <br />Councilor Zelenka clarified that he was not proposing that the City provide those who received an <br />exclusion order with legal counsel, but rather that they be provided with an advocate. City Manager Ruiz <br />confirmed there was a difference between legal counsel and such advocacy. He said that staff would not <br />be comfortable with the precedent set by the provision of legal counsel but were comfortable with the <br />provision of an advocate. Councilor Zelenka envisioned that advocates would provide those who received <br />exclusions with information about the process and the choices they faced, but would not provide legal <br />advice. He acknowledged Judge Allen's concerns about the potential that a person facing exclusion could <br />receive inaccurate legal advice from an advocate. <br />Police Chief Kerns concurred with Councilor Zelenka's remarks, adding that an advocate would be <br />primarily concerned with the welfare of the person facing the exclusion hearing. <br />Councilor Ortiz was prepared to support the DPSZ with the amendments contemplated. She spoke to the <br />advocacy element, recalling that when the prostitution zone had been established, the City's Human <br />Rights Support System advocates had worked with the prostitutes who had been arrested. She suggested <br />that any advocacy program could be extended to assist those who approached the Police Auditor's Office <br />for assistance but found that the office could not advocate for them because she believed that represented <br />a service gap. She believed people were frequently challenged by the complexity of the system and <br />needed assistance to navigate it. <br />Councilor Solomon said she would expect the council to appropriate an equal amount to fund victims' <br />assistance program if a motion funding advocate services was to pass. <br />Councilor Clark questioned what the City's liability would be if an advocate were to offer someone facing <br />exclusion with legal advice. <br />Councilor Poling agreed with Councilor Solomon's remarks about funding for victim's assistance. <br />Councilor Ortiz supported a volunteer approach to advocacy services but pointed out that frequently such <br />systems lacked consistency. Someone who was paid could be trained more precisely in the duties and <br />skills of an advocate. She wanted to ensure any advocacy training was consistent and that it remained <br />within the parameters of advocacy. She suggested the City partner with a social service agency to provide <br />such services. Councilor Ortiz said the program could be modeled on such programs as the court program <br />MINUTES— Eugene City Council November 22, 2010 Page 3 <br />Regular Meeting <br />