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pedestrians. He stated that a bus would not be able to roll up onto the curb. He said where there were <br />setback sidewalks, there would be bioswales, and the curb was flush with the street so that a bus would not <br />be able to pull onto that. <br /> <br />Continuing, Mr. Schoening reiterated that the fundamental difference between City staff and the CDCT was <br />that staff was comfortable that with a 20-foot street width the balance between pedestrian safety and traffic <br />would be met, while the CDCT felt an 18-foot width was adequate and more in line with the neighborhood. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor thanked the staff for allowing the council to consider an 18-foot width. She averred that it was <br />important to listen to citizens that had worked on an issue “for years.” She commended the commitment of <br />the neighborhood residents who worked on it. <br /> <br />Mr. Lorish said the thing to do was to slow down traffic. He believed an 18-foot wide street would serve <br />that purpose, while enhancing the neighborhood and keeping bicyclists and pedestrians safe; neighborhood <br />residents wanted to maintain the rural feel of the area. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor asked if there had been discussion of adding stop signs. Mr. Lorish replied that the CDCT had <br />discussed them. He said this issue resided with the traffic engineers. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor asked if the council could ask for additional stop signs to be installed. Mr. Schoening responded <br />that there were standard criteria across the country, but the council could give direction to the traffic <br />engineers to disregard the standard. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor thought that installation of stop signs every two blocks would slow traffic down. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor acknowledged that some people could not afford to pay the assessments for street improvements. <br />She said she understood that some people who lived in the cul de sacs had indicated a willingness to help pay <br />for road improvements. She wondered if there was a mechanism to facilitate that. Mr. Schoening thought <br />there would be such a mechanism. <br /> <br />Ms. Bettman said she wished staff could have resolved this issue administratively. She supported allowing <br />the street width to be 18 feet wide. She believed the City should change to “skinny streets.” <br /> <br />Ms. Solomon thanked the staff members and community members for working together. She was reminded <br />of Ayres Road when she thought of skinny streets, but had discovered that Ayres Road was actually three <br />feet wider than what was being proposed for Crest Drive. She felt that building a narrower street seemed <br />like trouble. <br /> <br />Mr. Clark expressed admiration for the area residents who had worked hard on this issue for a period of <br />years. He said the decision boiled down to the desires of the residents who lived in proximity to the streets <br />versus safety issues. He recalled the accident that resulted in a bicyclist’s fatality that happened on a <br />narrow rural road in 2006. He wanted to be sensitive to the safety issues involved in this. <br /> <br />In response to a question from Mr. Clark, Mr. Schoening said Mr. Corey had indicated that the streets were <br />currently “20 feet and wider.” Neighborhood residents present disputed this. <br /> <br />Mr. Clark observed that even “chock full of potholes” he rarely witnessed anyone driving under 25 miles per <br />hour on Crest Drive when he traversed it. He said though it was a “skinny street filled with potholes” people <br />“zoomed down” the street. He was not certain that “just making it skinny” would slow traffic down. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />MINUTES—Eugene City Council October 8, 2007 Page 6 <br /> Work Session <br /> <br />