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<br />. <br /> <br />c. :South HillsR$OOmmendCitions - Discussion continued from the May 20 formal CounciL <br />meeting on Planning Commission recommendation for adoption of the South Hills <br />,recommendations in its official report of April 9, 1974. Council members, prior <br />to committee meeting, toured several planned unit developments in the city. <br />Councilwoman Campbell distributed copies of memorandum from the planning depart- <br />mentcontaining suggested rewording of the Specific Recommendations for Ridge1ine <br />;park to provide for development consistent with the purposes of the study (II-1.b.), <br />:and to provide that existing parcels less than four acres in size above the ' <br />i700-foot level would not come under planned unit development procedures when <br />,site review procedures were followed (No.1 under Development Standards). <br /> <br />Councilman Williams acknowledged that four acres was a reasonable size for PUD <br />'procedures under R-2 densities but questioned whether in the South Hills area <br />'that type of development would occur. He felt there might be a substantial <br />'number of sites five, six, or seven acres in size that would not successfully <br />accommodate a PUD with a mix of housing. He wondered if the four-acre limit <br />could be changed to six or seven, retaining site review procedures, to make the <br />smaller sites more practical and still preserve the integrity of the area. In <br />answer to Councilman Murray's question whether the suggestion was in reference <br />to the 500~700 foot elevation, Mr. Williams said he was making the suggestion <br />in terms of using site review procedures on all smaller properties to possibly <br />six or seven acres in size rather than PUD for everything above the SOO-foot <br />'leve1 on properties larger than four acres. He noted the recommendation calling <br />for PUD on anything .larger than four acres between 500/700 feet on more than <br />20% slope. <br /> <br />I. <br />j <br />( <br />I <br />I <br />J <br />J. <br /> <br />/.i " <br />- <br /> <br />.~ <br />i <br />i <br />I <br />Jim Saul, planner, answered that the planners' concern was the desire to preserve! <br />as much open space as possible and they felt the PUD procedure would accomplish i <br />that. He felt it wbul"d be a question of trade-offs.. A number of multiple- ~.~ <br />i <br />family developments might result in preserving open space which otherwise would <br />,be taken up b1.l streets, drivewa~sl etc., for sinq1e-:fami1y units. He thought if. <br />the parcels not developea. under UD were---Targer there should be criter~a deal~ng <br />,with slope also. John Porter, planning director, added that it would be neces- <br />:sary to develop criteria so determination could be made at an early stage whether <br />,a development would be acceptable because in developing cluster type structures <br />'it would not be possib~e to change dwelling sites. He said both PUD and site <br />'review procedures were subject to public hear~ng so it would be important to <br />establish criteria for careful evaluation of how a property would develop. <br /> <br />Councilman Wood agreed with Mr. Williams' concern and suggested substitution of <br />;seven-acre parcels for four-acre parcels in exemption from planned unit develop- <br />,ment when site review procedures were followed. <br /> <br />-- <br /> <br />iMayor Anderson suggested that the planning staff be asked to recommend specifica- ! <br />itions that would establish criteria for development in those instances. Planning: <br />!Director said his department would like to have the chance to discuss the sug- i <br />gestion with the Joint Parks Committee, also the parks department, before bringing <br />any recommendations. <br /> <br />I <br />;Councilman Murray had no objection to allowing reasonable exemptions from the PUD( <br />,requirement but he didn't want to defeat the purpose of the study. He was not ! <br />sure of the impact of enlarging the size of properties exempted from PUD require-j <br />ment and favored gaining more information before making the decision. ! <br /> <br />/. <br /> <br />:Councilwoman Beal asked whether owners of large tracts - 40 to 50 acres -would <br />ibe able to sell off small portions for single-family residences if they didn't <br />[want to develop the entire tract themselves at one time. She wondered whether <br />!a person would be prohibitied from developing a 10- to 30-acre tract in single- <br />ifamily residences to a density of three per acre, and whether there would be a <br />\limit on the lot size. Mr. Porter explained differences between minor and major <br />Isubdivisions when property is divided. He said that under the study recommenda- <br />Itions a person asking for a minor subdivision so a portion of a property could <br />ibe sold would be required to disclose what was intended for the entire prop~rty. <br />!This, he said, would prevent sale of key portions of properties necessary to the <br />!best overall development of an area. Mr. Porter said selling a portion of a <br />:property for single-family development was technically possible but the cost for <br />,public improvements and facilities would probably make it prohibitive. Hesaid <br />[the minimum lot size was 6000 square feet. He added that these were issues in- <br />rvolving a series of questions regarding economics and would probably inVOlve <br />IpoSSibilities of discussing the whole subdivision process. <br /> <br />iCouncilman Keller commented on his research of the area which revealed that be- <br />itween the urban service boundary and 2000 feet of the ridge line of the South <br />;Hills there were about 76 parcels of land five acres or less in size. About <br />'65 we~~_.ov.:er fiveac~."---.H~!i~id.._aJx)Ut fo~of those parcels !_ep!~~!i~nt~(:L2?~_ <br /> <br />\&!> <br /> <br />6/i0/74 - 7 <br /> <br />~.. <br />
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