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<br />,of the total study area, and it was his feeling that to eliminate one-fourth <br />of the South Hills area from individual construction, putting in'PUDs, was <br />totally wrong. He suggested the study lacked some very good knowledge of the <br />impact of carrying out the recommendations, ,that the indecision between whether <br />four or seven acres was the proper limitation for exemption from planned unit <br />development called for more specific input. He said there was strong indication <br />that a parcel of 30 acres might be necessary for a feasible PUD in order to pro <br />rate costs so people could afford to buy. He felt people in the home building <br />industry should be supplying some of the information in the study since they were <br />the ones furnishing the homes and supplying the capital to build them. Mr.Keller <br />thought that more help was needed before implementation of recommendations that <br />may not prove practical. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />'Councilman Murray thought it misleading to suggest the choice was between <br />single-family residences and'PUDs since many of the PUDs comprise in large part <br />~sing1e-fami1y residences. He said they were not talking about eliminating <br />single-family homes but were concerned about single-family structures in the <br />South Hills area being too costly for a large portion of the community. <br />.Mr. williams agreed that it would be costly and that it would probably be some <br />time before there would be a demand for single-family sites in that area. <br />,However, his concern was that on smaller sites, five to seven acres, there <br />:wou1d be nothing but apartment construction if the PUD requirement applied, and <br />:he would rather see the options kept open for single-family structures. It was <br />,Councilman Hershner~s idea that probably it was the larger PUDs that included <br />:single-family housing. He also wondered whether even the larger PUDs were <br />heavily oriented to multiple-family even though there were some separate single: <br />: uni ts invo1 ved . I <br /> <br />, i <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />,Planning Director pointed out the relationship between single-family and <br />multiple-family units on sketches of several PUDs - Somerset Hills, Edgewood <br />West Jimber Village, Ot'lkway. It W:~S b!-,qught, out: tbat ..tile largest - Some,r,set - <br />had a total of 112 acres with the bulk of the units in multiple housing, but <br />:the bulk of the 'acreage in single-family. <br /> <br />'Councilwoman Campbell expressed her conviction that the SQuth Hills recommenda- <br />,tions were'consistent with what the city was trying to do with diversi.fied housing.) <br />.She pointed out that single-fa~ily development in the hill areas, besides being I <br />( <br />,quite expensive, would not provide the desired open space. She thought the I <br />provision for multiple-family housing in that area would provide homes for <br />,renters - those who did not buy. If it was not desired to develop properties <br />:in line with the city's policy and community goals, she said, perhaps it would <br />!be better to rethink the community goals. <br /> <br />:Councilwoman'Bea1 wondered whether single-family homes in the South Hills area <br />:would be completely out; under what circumstances could property owners build <br />single-family homes for themselves. Mr. Murray said the city did provide for <br />that type of development, even above the 900-foot level. However, Mrs.Campbe1l <br />:pointed out they would be very expensive and Mrs. Beal agreed, saying the cost <br />'would be out of reach of the middle-income person. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />'Further discussion led to the conclusion that there was no disagreement with the <br />I <br />concept of the study recommendations, rather there was question about details. <br />Mr. Saul cited statistics on the number of four-acre or less sites in the study <br />area and the percentage which were vacant. He said there had been no attempt <br />to determine the number of parcels suitable for major subdivision versus minqr <br />subdivision. Councilman Keller suggested appointment of a committee to include, <br />builders and developers who would know whether the recommendations would prove <br />:economically feasible. i' <br /> <br />., <br /> <br />Mayor Anderson suggested that the planning staff be asked to bring back several <br />alternatives for Council consideration before the committee process was started <br />again. He thought if consensus then was that the staff suggestions ,-"ere not <br />practical other people could be brought into the discussion. <br /> <br />Councilman Hershner agreed with following that procedure. He noted the change <br />in wording suggested in the Ridge1ine Park Specific Recommendations (II-1.b.) <br />to permit development under PUD procedures above the 900-foot level when it <br />could be demonstrated "...a proposed development is consistent with purposes <br />of this section." He asked what the purposes of the section were. He expressed <br />concern tha t tha t wording would throw it back into the ca tegory of previous <br />objections - that development under PUD procedures would be allowed only if it <br />was shown the public need would be served. He thought that,in an indirect way, <br />would be obtaining property from ownerships above the 900-foot level. He ob- <br />:jected to the philosophy of using the PUD requirement to force property owners <br />to dedicate property for a public park in order to be able to do anything with <br />their property. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />\tB <br /> <br />6/j,O/74 - 8 <br /> <br />,I,j <br />
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