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<br />. <br /> <br />:Councilman Murray answered that the purposes of the section were in a sense <br />,the purposes of the study itself. He said it was not the intent to take private <br />'property and he didn't read that ipto the section. He explained that the in- <br />:tent was to preserve that very significant part of the city and if it couldn't be <br />'done in a way compatible with the purposes of this study and allow development <br />at the same time then there was an obligation to develop a satisfactory way of <br />,resolving that problem. He didn't see it as a "taking" kind of recommendation. <br /> <br />':Councilman Hershner commented on the trend of government going from condemnation <br />'and fair reimbursement type of action when property was needed for parks, streets, <br />:etc., to saying a zone change would be allowed if the property was dedicated for <br />;those public uses. He fel tprobably people wanting to develop were willing to <br />give property for needed access, but he thought government was moving farther <br />iaway from the public's paying for what it needed. Councilman Williams suggested <br />staff might 109k at that guestion when bringing alternatives with regard to lot <br />sizes. He thought it should be made very clear that what was being proposed was <br />'a condemnation sort of action rather than that of police power. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />Mrs. Campbell noted that five areas were designated for parks imd that was <br />clearly spelled out in the study. She said the public was well aware of the <br />'proposal because of previous hearings. She didn't see the PUD requirement as <br />;a threat to the property owners. Mr. Murray noted familiarity with the study <br />;he and Mrs. Campbell had because of their membership on the Joint Parks Commi ttee ' <br />land first-hand knowledge gained from the public hearings. He aidn' t feel anyone <br />'thought of it as being "heavy handed." He said there was consistent comment <br />from o~ers of large parcels that they would dedicate park property on their <br />own initiative. He felt that was one of several ways the purposes of the study <br />could be accomplished " <br /> <br />toun~ilman Keller said that although confiscation wasn't mentioned and was not <br />:the ultimate goal, wording of'the recommendations could lead to it. The <br />;proposal, he said, was for a trail park and that could involve about 40 acres. <br />He noted there was no indication of width of pathways so there were no specifics <br />:with regard to what would have to be dedicated, for public use. <br />! <br />;Mayor Anderson thought that consideration of details at this point would weigh <br />: down the entire study in its purpose of preserving the South Hills. He suggested <br />:the legal staff could develop some clarification of the question of dedication. <br />:Mr. Hershner was in favor of staff's working on it. He said it was one thing <br />!in working with a developer under PUD procedures to have him leave a portion of <br />:his property in its natural state or vacant, but entirely different when telling <br />~one a certain portion must be dedicated for public use. That distinction was <br />'his concern. In answer to Mr. Saul, Mr. Hershner said he felt the modification <br />:on specific recommendations for the Ridgeline Park was too broad and that c1arifi-~ <br />cation there would be desirable. <br /> <br />- <br /> <br />,Councilman Wood felt many other things in the study should be considered besides <br />;economics - drainage, erosion, slope, etc. And since there appeared to be con- <br />Isensus on most of the study, he said, he would support staff's bringing back <br />al ter na ti ves . <br /> <br />'Mr. Murray expressed concern about discussion of the modification presented <br />,on the Ridge1ine Park wi th regard to development. He wondered whether under the <br />'broader wording the Council would be discussing proposals that would not have <br />qualified for discussion in the initial stages of the study. Mr. Saul said that <br />;the impression staff received from comments at the public hearing before the <br />Council was that the original wording was ambiguous. He explained that it was <br />~n attempt to set forth a better standard to which a development proposal could <br />,be tied so that a judgment could be made as to whether the purpose of the study <br />:was being met. In, answer to Councilman Murray, he said the rewording would not <br />,change the amount of property that could go through PUD procedure, it only re- <br />;defined the process. <br /> <br />Manager noted that when the study was adopted it would be adopted as a statement <br />of policy requiring implementation through specific language. Development of an <br />,ordinance in that regard could spell out definite kinds of criteria which would <br />meet some of the concerns expressed. <br /> <br />~. <br /> <br />Councilwoman Campbell expressed disappointment at the Council's reaction t;othe <br />:recommendations. She hoped in future instances that Council members would be <br />more receptive to committees' requests for comments so there would be more input <br />:prior to the last hearing 'and the process would not be prolonged. <br /> <br />Manager wondered whether Council desired distribution of a letter received since <br />the public hearing from Don-Lee Davidson, Davidson Industries, which pointed <br />;out problems with properties in their ownership in the South'Hills. Council <br />members wished to have the letter and it was understood copies would be made and <br />distributed. <br /> <br />~\ <br /> <br />,~O <br /> <br />6(iO('J4 - 9 <br />
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