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Mr. Obie said he would support a major commitment to mass transit, but could not support a goal that could not be proven to be realistic. He felt that not to be good planning. Mr. Porter said a goal should be perceived as something that may never be obtained. but something that ~ is to be strived for. He emphasized there was nothing magic about the ~ year 2000. as transportation planning would not stop at that time. Mr. Obie wondered, if in reality an eight-percent goal were achieved by the year 2000, if the plan would be any different. Mr. Porter replied not for the first five years, and he could not answer for the remainder of time. Mayor Keller said that if. in fact, the 15 percent goal was acceptable, then required facility planning has to be prepared no matter what the percentages. Mr. Farah said that when the community starts building the facilities, it will be necessary to look at what capacity requirements are. If the plans are 'not reaching that transit goal, then it will be necessary to look at what facilities will accommodate those needs in another way. Ms. Smith questioned whether the Planning Commission felt satisfied, if in accepting the long-term goals. that the short-term planning would be adequately addressed. Mr. Bernhard said that the Planning Commission officially did not recognize the long-term goals but did make recommenda- tions for some highways and noncorridor projects for the next five years. Dave Rynerson, LTD, said the plan was primarily a street and highway plan, rather than a transit plan. The reason for establishing long-range transit goals was to do long-range street and highway planning. A transit development program that is good would be included in the next annual update and would include those types of short-range transit decisions. ~ The plan envisions use of street,and highway money that is available and ~ is looking at how to set pri orities for use of that money accordi ng to the assumptions about long-range planning. Mr. 'Lieuallen requested that the staff respond to the general east-west and north-south movements along 6th-7th. 11th-13th, and 18th. He wondered if the 6th-7th freeway were built, whether that meant there will riot be a need to improve 18th Avenue. Ollie Snowden, L-COG, said the plan indicates with the 6th-7th freeway that improvements on 18th would be less than those required with just a widening of 6th-7th avenues. If the 6th-7th avenue freeway were eliminated. there would be an increased level of improvement needed on 18th. Mr. Lieuallen said he envisioned. with this plan. an end result of major improvements in freeways going through largely residential areas, with a resultant disruption in neighborhoods and the character of the residential areas. He said spending the money with resultant negative effects on neighborhoods would not really solve the problem because growth would be so great and the improvements would attract people to make more trips. He was concerned that when energy and fuel run out, the City might be stuck with a vast monolithic monument. 5/3/78--10 - .3/S