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e Mr. Morgan said to fulfill OSHA requirements certain businesses and industries have contracted with MSI to have them supply first aid equipment and have available personnel to administer first aid. He agreed that they are profi- table, and a time line has not been established for shutting down these ser- vices. Mr..Henry asked if this is part of the plan which will be submitted to the court. Mr. Morgan stated this is all one corporation operating with over- lapping personnel. Ms. Miller questioned MSI's policy of "women in the office and men in the field.1I Mr. Morgan stated that they have two or three women EMT's. Ms. Miller asked what ongoing mechanism will be used to see that the council recommen- dations are enacted if the rate increase is approved. Mr. Henry stated that a monitoring mechanism is part of the task force's charge. The Touche Ross study states that the effectiveness of the model depends on the effectiveness of the monitoring agency, reviewing the budget and the operation. This would be similar to the City Manager Office's review of any other City departmental budget. Mr. Lieuallen stated that after the Springfield Council meeting, the newspaper quoted Mr. Morgan and he asked if that was an accurate reflection of what was said. Mr. Morgan responded that it was. Mr. Lieuallen stated that at last week's council meeting, when the rate increase was being discussed, it was mentioned that this rate increase would be used for current operations and that other moneys resulting from items being sold and a different internal management e woul d be used to amorti ze the debt. The newspaper stated that only 30 percent of the debt would be amortized from other sources. It stated that the rate increase would be used to pay the debt. Mr. Morgan responded that MSI sub- sidized the rates in the past and the public received the benefit of those rates which caused the debts. It will take not only liquidation of some assets, including sales of the rental and sales division as well as selling the building, but use of current profits to reduce the debt. Mr. Lieuallen asked if he had misunderstood last week when he thought they had said the rate increase would be used strictly for current operations. Mr. Morgan stated it will take a combina- tion of both liquidation and profits to payoff the debts. Mr. Lieuallen asked about the building being leased to a corporation. Mr. Morgan st ated that MSI is using the entire building right now, but they do not need all the room. There is currently a proposal for retail space on the ground floor. Mr. Lieuallen asked if the entire building has been in use since it was opened. Mr. Morgan responded that it has been. Ms. Schue stated that she thought she understood that the company feels justified using the rate increase to payoff part of the debt because the public received the benefits of the service when the debts were incurred. She asked for clari- fication, adding that MSI used all of the building, but not all the space was e MINUTES--City Council October 22, 1980 Page 6 r.