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the working poor who worked for the City. She said that none of the City's economic <br />development strategies had proved to be effective and the level of public benefit was unknown. <br />Ms. Bettman thought the council should also be willing to spend economic development dollars to <br />support the working poor. She said that public dollars should not be used to perpetuate poverty. <br />She was prepared to support the ESSN's living wage proposal. She thought it was a good <br />proposal and gave the City latitude in implementation. However, Ms. Bettman indicated <br />willingness to consider a ramped-down amount. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson said that regardless of the issue, she was not moved by assertions that something <br />was obviously the "right thing to do." She looked at issues from many various points of view and <br />tried to be fair. Speaking to Mr. Meisner's comments regarding whether the living wage was the <br />best way to achieve the goal of reducing poverty, Ms. Nathanson agreed it was not the best way <br />to achieve the desired goal. She said that other cities that had passed a living wage were <br />reconsidering them, and that signaled to her that there was no one best solution. She was <br />concerned about the right way to address the problem. Was it helping the working poor, or <br />reducing poverty? She perceived a difference between the two. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson noted that she met with the proponents of the proposal three times and had <br />reviewed the information they provided. She said she also considered the discussion of the <br />Budget Citizen Subcommittee in reaching her decision. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly said that the council heard testimony that nearly 90 jurisdictions had adopted a living <br />wage and noted that he had been provided no information about cities scaling back. He <br />requested that data. He said there was evidence supporting the claim that the living wage <br />reduced poverty, citing a Baltimore-based study. Mr. Kelly said that there was no single best tool <br />to address poverty. The problem of societal health had to be addressed in many ways. He said <br />that one way could be economic development strategies that could include incentives for large <br />companies; another way could be programs and incentives that help the working poor. Mr. Kelly <br />agreed with Ms. Bettman that the City did not do enough in the latter area. He said yet another <br />way could be programs and incentives for the jobless and homeless. Mr. Kelly agreed with the <br />citizen who characterized the living wage as a "trickle-up" economic tool. He said that people <br />would spend their increased pay in the local community. He agreed with another citizen who <br />testified that adopting a living wage was a right and moral thing to do. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly indicated interest in seeing a draft ordinance based on scaled-down version of the ESSN <br />proposal. <br /> <br />Mr. Poling said that he received many constituent contacts about the living wage proposal and <br />had done some research. He found information both in support and in opposition to a living wage. <br />In response to Mr. Kelly's question about cities that have rescinded the living wage, Mr. Poling <br />noted that in November 2002, Santa Monica, California, rescinded its living wage ordinance. He <br />further noted the unintended consequences experienced by Montgomery County, Maryland, when <br />it adopted a living wage. Mr. Poling expressed concern that cities that adopted such an ordinance <br />had no data demonstrating its effectiveness. He believed that the living wage concept was <br />"wishful thinking fraught with fundamental flaws." He did not believe it was the most effective way <br />to use City resources to fight poverty. He suggested the residents were better served by placing <br />any available money toward restoring social services, energy assistance, food, shelter, and drug <br />and alcohol treatment. <br /> <br /> MINUTES--Eugene City Council January 29, 2003 Page 6 <br /> Work Session <br /> <br /> <br />