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<br />Ms. Schulz said she had not communicated \villi anyone in a state office. She said she \-vas basing her <br />conclusion on th.e pages in the official hand book that had been submitted into the record. (Exhibit 33a) <br /> <br />Ms. Colbath expressed her concern that there \vas no independent opinion on 111ixing samples fron1 a State <br />office. <br /> <br />In response to a question from Mr. Belcher regarding a previous applicatiol1 \vith Eugene Sand and Gravel <br />and \vhether there was any information on sample analysis in that case that could shed light on the matter, <br />Associate Plalll1er Thon1 Lanfear said there were sinlilar issues raised in that application. He said the <br />commissions\vere faced \vlth the dilemn1a of competing reports from qualified experts and \vould have to <br />\veigh the evidence in the record and n1ake a decisioll. He added that infornlation fro111 that previous <br />application was not part of the record for the current matter. <br /> <br />Mr. Zdzienicki said it would have been prudent to involve the state to clarify the 111atter. <br /> <br />Ms. Schulz replied that referrals had been sent out to state age11cies but tllere had been no replies. <br /> <br />Ms. Arkin said the report from EGR and Associates stated that 75 percent of the expansion site \vas class 2 <br />soils. She stressed the inlportance of the measurenlents because there ",ras a trade offbetween prinle <br />farmland and aggregate resource. She stressed the importance of establishing the aCCtlracy of the sampling <br />that h.ad been done. She said slle seriously considered tlle testimony ofDr<< Mark Reed \vho had said the <br />111aterial was mixed \vhen it should not have been and had stated that there \vas only 25 feet of aggregate <br />on the site in question. She noted that the documents quoted by Ms. Schulz said that samples should be <br />mixed from each stratunl of deposits. She said she felt that the applicallt had not convil1ced her that <br />appropriatesan1pling had bee11 done. She added that there \verequestions about bore hole three a11d the <br />accuracy of the data provided. She con1ffiented that the applicant could have 'cherry picked' spots for bore <br />holes and remarked that the proof provided was not strong. <br /> <br />Eugene Planl1ing C0rIU11issioner Rick Duncan said he understood the sampling process \vas a w~y to make <br />an estinlate of tIle total amount of resource that was available<< He said to be judged significant, it needed <br />to be equal to or greater than 2 111i11ion cubic tons. He stressed that the applicant's satuple sho\ved 8 <br />nlillion cubic tons<< He questioned \-vhether a poorly takel1 sample could make up for a 6 million cubic ton <br />difference. <br /> <br />Mr. Dignam ackno\vle.dged that there were conflicting expe.rt testimonies in tIle record. He said it was 110t <br />a leap of faith that there was a significant aggregate resource in tllat area since gravel companies had been <br />n1ining gravel there for decades. He said it was not a hard assumption to determine that there \vas <br />significal1t resource on the site and said he intended to vote for step two. <br /> <br />Mr. Duncan said he ""QuId support step two as\vell since it was hard to believe that a sample could be <br />\vrong by 6 million cubic tOllS. <br /> <br />Mr. Belcher said he had no questions about quantity but.questiol1ed \vhether the quality was sufficient. <br /> <br />Ms. Colbath agreed and said sampling done from different strata \vould have answered those questions. <br />She said she believed there was adequate supply but said the problelTI \vas that quality "vas difflcult to <br />determine. <br /> <br />MINUTES-Lane County Planning Commission <br /> <br />July 25, 2006 <br /> <br />Page 4 <br />