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He expressed a hope that three councilors would support him in sustaining the potential veto and expressed a further hope that such an action from him would not be needed. Mayor Torrey pointed out that PeaceHealth had a severe test to meet in the conditional use permit process for developing its chosen site. He urged the council not to force Peace Health into the Gateway area of Springfield where there was adequate space and willing sellers of land. Councilor Kelly believed that it was premature to discuss vetoing an ordinance whose form and substance was not yet known. Regarding the potential of PeaceHealth moving to Springfield, Councilor Kelly opined that the board had ties to the community of Eugene and would not think of moving to Springfield. He added that such a move would be the end of McKenzie Willamette Hospital and the end of hospital competition in the metro area. In response to a concern over the extra time added to the process by Councilor Nathanson's motions, City Manager Johnson said that items 1 and 2 would be difficult to provide accurate information about. He said that he would need direction from council as to a deadline date of a "high level, quick turnaround" report. He added that such a report would include lots of assumptions and educated guesses but would be as professionally done as possible. He stressed the need for a formal traffic analysis with a specific location in mind. Councilor Bettman commented that it was no secret that PeaceHealth was negotiating for property north of its existing site at Crescent, in and out of the urban growth boundary. She suggested adding possible urban costs into the study of Item 1. Councilor Farr stressed the need for a traffic analysis of the Crescent site versus the downtown site. Councilor Taylor said that a majority of councilors wanted the hospital to be in the downtown area. She said she would vote against Councilor Nathanson's motions. Councilor Nathanson said that the issue was not about what the council preferred but what was realistic and achievable for the City to accomplish. She stressed the need for an objective analysis. Councilor Pap8 commented that the council was forgetting that it was dealing with a private institution. He stressed that PeaceHealth owned its own land and had every right to move north. He expressed his preference for the hospital to stay in the core of the City but stressed again that PeaceHealth could do what it could with its property. Regarding Councilor Kelly's comments about the hospital's "ties to the City", Councilor Pap8 noted that the hospital's headquarters were in Bellevue, Washington, and it had no responsibility to make sure that McKenzie-Willamette hospital remained viable. He said that the City needed to make it possible for PeaceHealth to stay in the community. Mayor Torrey said his intent to veto the ordinance was to allow the hospital to examine all of its options and not to put the hospital at the Crescent site. He stressed that the council should not be limiting the options that the hospital had. In response to a question from Councilor Kelly regarding how much staff time would be involved with the proposed motions, City Manager Johnson said that 60 days would be acceptable for defining options and assumptions for traffic analysis. MINUTES--Eugene City Council July 9, 2001 Page 9 Regular Session