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<br />Mr. Hill did not favor waiting for ODOT. He observed that the message was that ODOT might decide <br />to do something, they did not know when it would be done, and they could change their minds. He <br />stressed that a pavement overlay on River Avenue would be a "big mistake," and that it would not solve <br />storm water issues. He questioned the wisdom of spending good money on something that would "go <br />away" quickly. He also wished to point out that should the project be postponed, costs would continue <br />to go up exponentially. He urged the group to get a plan together and "do it" and not to wait for ODOT. <br /> <br />Ms. Damron agreed that the group should not wait indefinitely. She wished to take the ODOT word that <br />more would be known within a year. She suggested that the group put a sunset date of 12 months on the <br />waiting period and in that time it should lobby to get some kind of decision. <br /> <br />Regarding the property owners' proposal, Ms. Damron opposed a reduction in landscaping. She wanted <br />the landscaping to be beautiful. She also opined that if the road was only an on.ramp at the east end, it <br />did not need to consist of three lanes. In response to concerns expressed about speed, she suggested that <br />a two. lane road with potholes did much to reduce speed. She felt that cleaning up the road could <br />potentially increase driving speeds to 50 miles per hour. <br /> <br />Mr. Austin recalled that the City Council had directed the stakeholders group to make a proposal, not to <br />present them with options. Mr. Schoening affirmed this. <br /> <br />Mr. Howard underscored that a common theme of discussion was an unwillingness to take an expensive <br />action before knowing ODOrs plans for Beltline Highway. He suggested forwarding Ms. Damron's <br />second option, which mainly sought to repair River Avenue with a pavement overlay, as the group's <br />preferred alternative and then submitting the propelty owners' proposal as a "fall.back." <br /> <br />Ms. Vaughn wondered ifthe group could take a closer look at proposals and finesse them. She felt once <br />the group had a better vision of what the project would look like, the group could strategize. She <br />commented that she felt a little rushed. <br /> <br />Mr. Hoobyar asked that a placeholder be put on Mr. Howard's suggestion. <br /> <br />Mr. Samer thought the property owners' proposal could, with a little tweaking, be a good plan. He <br />suggested that the group take a couple of "ancillary votes" on details such as landscaping and finish <br />putting the proposal together. <br /> <br />Continuing, Mr. Samer said he had made a point of coming to River Avenue on his bicycle more <br />frequently and had observed pedestrians and bicyclists every time. He also had been talking with <br />homeowners in his neighborhood, who had experienced a similar road improvement, and everyone he <br />spoke to had opined that the River Avenue stakeholders just had to <<bite the bullet and do it." <br /> <br />Mr. Hill reiterated his concerns regarding increased costs. He underscored that construction costs were <br />increasing by 15 to 30 percent with every year. He opined that with the money the River Avenue road <br />project would cost in five years a freeway could be built today. He did not favor relying on ODOT for <br /> <br />MINUTE8--River A venue Stakeholder Group- <br />Public Works Department October 5,2005 Page 6 <br />
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