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Betsy asked for a clarification of wording for urban services. <br /> <br />Commissioner Stewart stated that the county provides a lot of services. Consider <br />differentiating between “intense” development versus “rural” development. <br /> <br />Councilor Ralston stated that if we were to list out services, the underlying issue would <br />be who pays for it. <br /> <br />Commissioner Handy noted that so many pieces are interspersed and interwoven; not <br />only who pays but who will pay for a Metro Plan Update. He also noted that <br />transportation and land use are co-joined, and growth gets at both. <br /> <br />Councilor Lundberg stated that the Metro Plan may need an overhaul—can’t just do one <br />piece; maybe Metro Plan gets at certain services related to land use and growth. These are <br />enormous tasks—trying to identify solutions that will work for each jurisdiction, doesn’t <br />mean all will agree. <br /> <br />Councilor Clark stated that we need more clarity from staff; want more structural <br />guidance on who does what. We should back out to larger principles and need to identify <br />on what basis should city provide versus county: for example, what is county bound to <br />provide for public safety? Roles and conflict resolution should be clarified. <br /> <br />Bill Grile stated that in terms of Metro Plan history, the minimum that is necessary for a <br />state-mandated acknowledged plan is Goal 11, Public Facilities, and Goal 12, <br />Transportation. <br /> <br />Councilor Ralston stated that a list of services, who is using them and who is paying for <br />them would be helpful. <br /> <br />Commissioner Handy asked about the status of the Metro Plan language drafted by <br />Springfield. <br /> <br />Greg Mott responded that it was drafted as a “first blush” to implement HB 3337 and was <br />a minimalist approach. He added that they were working more towards two refinement <br />plans, and hadn’t been instructed to do away with the Metro Plan. He noted they were <br />trying to ascertain how elements were “nested.” For example, as soon as HB 3337 is <br />implemented, parts of the Metro Plan aren’t valid any more. He also added that until all <br />the work is done, it is hard to be accurate in terms of inconsistencies within the Metro <br />Plan, and that the cities will have to work with the county on certain issues. <br /> <br />Susan Muir echoed that Eugene is staying in compliance with HB 3337, and hadn’t been <br />directed to do away with the Metro Plan. <br /> <br />Lisa Gardner noted that at the regional planning meetings, they will figure out the legal <br />set up for the Metro Plan in terms of HB 3337. She added that they have tried to make a <br />distinction between land use-related state goals and critical services. <br />JEO Subcommittee Meeting page 4 4/13/2009 <br /> <br />