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looked on fresh vegetables and fruits as a luxury. He averred that though they were not going hungry, they <br />were just surviving. <br /> <br />Mayor Piercy closed the forum. <br /> <br />Councilor Bettman thanked everyone for their testimony. She averred that the vote for the charter <br />amendment meant that the language in the charter was mandatory and was not negotiable. She opined that <br />the amendments she put forward were “basically just a way to get the discussion going.” She asserted that <br />they would enact the maximum authority the charter allowed. She did not believe this was being done <br />currently. She also did not believe the committee would finish its work in three months and predicted it <br />would be “at least six months, if we are lucky.” She alleged that every day her proposed amendments sat in <br />the committee would be in violation of the law set forth by the charter that enacted police oversight. She <br />believed that the auditor and the CRB did not have the authority the voters gave them by enacting the <br />charter. She likened it to “shirking” their responsibility to the voters. She declared that the council “must <br />give that authority” to the auditor and the CRB. <br /> <br />Councilor Ortiz thanked everyone for coming down. She indicated that she would call Mr. Clemens about <br />his idea for a free garden. She said she was working on an effort in the Trainsong neighborhood that could <br />include a community garden. <br /> <br />Councilor Ortiz stated that she had supported the charter amendment and supported police oversight. She <br />stressed that her motion to form a committee to vet the proposed amendments to the ordinance language had <br />not been the result of backroom finagling. She had no desire to undermine the authority of the auditor or of <br />the voters. She said she had also worked on the auditor issues with Councilor Bettman. She underscored <br />that this committee was not charged with anything other than reviewing the issues that Councilor Bettman <br />had set forth. She had attended three National Association of Civilian Oversight of Law Enforcement <br />(NACOLE) conferences. She related that she had learned that the oversight process was fluid and that there <br />was nothing set in stone; it needed to have continued revision in order to ensure it reflected the community <br />values that supported it. She did not know of any words to reassure people who felt that the formation of <br />the committee was a “stalling tactic.” She said when she placed herself on a committee and appointed other <br />people to a committee she expected that everyone would work hard to make sure they send back to council a <br />product they could send forward to the community. She underscored that the council had the last word on it. <br /> <br />Councilor Clark expressed appreciation to everyone who came and shared their opinion. He said he would <br />be willing to help with Mr. Clemens’ idea for a community garden. He thought it was a wonderful idea. <br /> <br />Councilor Clark thanked everyone for their opinions on the police auditor. He specifically wanted to thank <br />Mr. Laue, who had captured his sentiments “best.” He found some of the comments unfortunate. He said <br />he appreciated Ms. Berg-Caldwell’s comments but he did not think it was helpful to define people’s <br />disagreements by guessing what their motivations might be. He underscored that he had clearly said from <br />the beginning that he was very interested in seeing effective police oversight go forward. He recognized that <br />65 percent of the people had voted to strengthen the oversight model. He intended to see that done. He <br />explained that there was no direct connection to what the people had voted for and what Councilor Bettman <br />had proposed in her amendments. He said some of the 11 amendment she had set forth had left him with <br />questions. He was not certain that one could say that this was a direct correlation to the council had <br />considered in Councilor Bettman’s proposal. He absolutely favored seeing the oversight strengthened and <br />the charter fulfilled. In order to make appropriate decisions on Councilor Bettman’s amendments, he felt he <br />needed better information. He disagreed with the suggestion that the committee was somehow stacked in <br />favor of the police. He reiterated that at the end of the day the City Council would be the ones that were <br />accountable for the decision and if the public did not like the decision they arrived at, the voters could vote <br />MINUTES—Eugene City Council November 24, 2008 Page 6 <br /> Regular Meeting <br /> <br />