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Ms. Miller observed that the statistics indicated that adults over 24 years of age represented 71 percent of those <br />excluded, although people often complained about the youth downtown. <br />Ms. Miller reported a civil lawsuit had been filed regarding the constitutionality of the ordinance and expressed <br />disappointment no one asked a question about the ordinance’s constitutionality at the DPSZ forum while the City <br />Attorney was present. <br />Speaking to the issue of funding social services and jail beds, Ms. Miller acknowledged a lack of funding for <br />services in general. She reviewed some comparative data for Portland, Salem, Eugene, and Multnomah County <br />related to those jurisdictions’ expenditures for public safety and social services that demonstrated Eugene’s lack <br />of officers, district attorneys, and jail beds. She did not know how other communities were able to fund their <br />services to a greater degree than Eugene-Springfield. Ms. Miller recalled Ms. Syrett’s comments at the forum that <br />those concerned about public services should vote for public service funding measures. She agreed with those <br />comments, but said in the meantime, the City must find other ways to deal with crime in the community. <br />Mr. Mueller said the list of stakeholders appeared to lack representation from social service agencies and he was <br />curious as to why they were not considered stakeholders. Lt. Mozan said they were considered stakeholders. He <br />pointed out there were different interests in downtown and the list referred to by Mr. Mueller included security <br />stakeholders. There was also a Downtown Safety Committee that included several human services agency <br />representatives. <br />Mr. Mueller preferred that people be put into treatment as needed rather than be incarcerated, suggesting that it <br />could be done at less cost. He pointed out the large number of alcohol-related offenses and suggested that rather <br />than displacing them into other neighborhoods, people be put into treatment so they could change their ways and <br />have a better life. He said research indicated people who had encounters with law enforcement had reduced <br />participation in democracy because they felt abused and overwhelmed by authority figures. He said that was not a <br />good thing for society and recommended the commission look beyond “its corner of the world” and consider the <br />“bigger picture.” Although kicking people who needed help out of downtown might help the businesses of Mr. <br />Clark and Mr. Brown, Mr. Mueller did not think it was the best thing for the community. He wanted to look more <br />carefully at the bigger issues rather than merely accept that “things are better this summer.” <br />Responding to a question from Mr. Laue, Ms. Phelps said a key difference between the DPSZ and the City’s <br />former exclusion zone was that the former ordinance gave officers more discretion. In the case of the DPSZ, City <br />staff worked with Municipal Court to develop an ordinance that included show cause hearings. Officers could not <br />grant exclusions on their own, although she acknowledged there were questions about how the temporary five-day <br />exclusion worked. She said 90-day exclusions and one-year exclusions could only be imposed by a judge. That <br />included a show-cause hearing and the individual must appear in court. It was a civil process, so no <br />representation was involved. <br />Mr. Laue asked if Eugene continued to have a prostitution-free zone. Chief Kerns clarified that the City had a <br />prostitution-free ordinance but no identified zone, which was determined by the number of arrests in a given area. <br />Mr. Laue asked about existing court tests for similar ordinances and zones. He suggested that such a zone might <br />be legal but was not necessarily constitutional, as laws were passed by legislative bodies and constitutionality was <br />determined by the courts. <br />Speaking to earlier comments about funding levels for social services and jail beds, Mr. Laue noted that Lane <br />County had one of the lowest property tax bases in Oregon and lacked funding for basic county responsibilities, <br />which led to the current crisis conditions in corrections and social services. <br />Mr. Laue said he heard that the DPSZ was an effective tool in an area where problems had grown to crisis <br />proportions. He suggested that the logical question was whether DPSZ would be an effective tool if adopted <br />citywide, and if adopted citywide, would the DPSZ be constitutional. He recommended the commission focus on <br />th <br />the issues raised by the ACLU related to the 13 <br /> Amendment and due process. While he agreed that there were <br /> <br />