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Ms. Nixon believed that raised questions about the other information provided by LTD. She recalled that an LTD consultant had recently indicated to an advisory committee that TSM had reduced stops, which had been a significant issue when comparing travel times. Up until now, LTD had always stated that TSM did not have reduced stops and was slower by only three minutes. LTD staff had not seemed to know if that was true or not. Kim Sawyer, 2170 Greenview Street, owner of a business on West 11` Avenue, recalled that in October, a representative of the "Envision Utah" had presented at the Hilton Hotel on that effort. He said that individual made it clear that process had included many options, an educational process, and a public vote. Many elements had been involved. He said one of his employees had lived in Utah at the time and confirmed and commended the process. Mr. Sawyer believed Eugene's effort paled in comparison in terms of representation. He said the presentation made him think about legacy projects. Mr. Sawyer asked the council to have the courage to come up with a legacy in the form of an all- encompassing plan all residents could live with that included land use, water use, public and private transportation, urban growth, the schools, and amenities such as Civic Stadium. Tom Halferty, 4510 Manzanita Street, supported naming a park for Suzanne Arlie. He suggested the remainder of the parks bond moneys should be spread out around the whole community and not concentrated in a single area such as south Eugene. He said the City should consider where growth could happen and what was integral to the community right now. Mr. Halferty considered Civic Stadium to be a worthwhile project. He suggested the City could purchase the land and recover its costs with compatible development on the half not occupied by the stadium. He suggested an independent entity could manage the facility to avoid additional public costs. Eileen Loritsch, no address given, supported a better transit system in Eugene but did not think that EmX represented an improvement. She said it did not make sense that LTD would buy buses that run on diesel instead of alternative fuels. The EmX buses did not get good gas mileage. She suggested that LTD look into the smaller buses used in other communities. Ms. Loritsch questioned a decision to run EmX down West 11` Avenue as it lacked the residential density that existed in other areas. She believed that reduced stops would benefit some but not many people. She questioned why LTD was sticking to a plan with so many flaws rather than seeking more sustainable and convenient solutions. Dennis Cassady, PO Box 5028, Eugene, opposed the purchase of the property owned by Arlie & Company. He had not known the City would threaten the use of eminent domain to acquire the Green and Beverly properties when he had voted for the bond measure. He said the City was losing credibility through its actions. He averred that if the City purchased the Arlie property, it would be taking away money from the schools. Irving Weiner, 88500 Greenhill Road, suggested the council step back from the EmX proposal and let everyone provide input so that any plan that resulted was everyone's plan. He thought there were ways the proposal for a West Eugene EmX route could be made better. He asked the council not to rush to a decision. Wendy Butler - Boyeson, 1265 City View Street, expressed support for the proposed West Eugene EmX route. She described how she used the EmX system as a kindergarten teacher. She believed the area adjacent to West 11` Avenue had sufficient residential density to support the EmX route. She had recently used the 41 bus to reach downtown and it had been standing room only. She concluded that "the ridership was definitely there." Ms. Butler - Boyeson spoke of LTD's mitigation efforts, which she MINUTES — Eugene City Council December 13, 2010 Page 3 Regular Meeting