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<br /> and "tangible" definitions, she said substantial would have to be viewed <br /> in its context, while tangible would be defined by the dictionary. She <br />e said it would require almost a case-by-case decision using the definition <br /> of terms as outlined in the ordinance. <br /> Mr. Delay felt there was an ambiguity in the definition of pecuniary <br /> interest, and in the prohibiting of contracting versus voting behavior. <br /> He further explained he felt the City should not be contracting with <br /> any firm in which a City Council member has a direct interest, and he <br /> felt as he read Subsections 2 and 3 there was some ambiguity. In subse- <br /> quent discussion, Ms. Benjamin indicated she could redraft the ordinance <br /> and reorder the sections to take care of Mr. Delay's concern. <br /> Mr. Williams suggested perhaps allowing the use of the "de minimus" <br /> principle in the ordinance wherein small purchases by the City could be <br /> allowed by firms in which City Councilors had some interest. Ms. Benj ami n <br /> said the State statutes require a Councilor to declare a conflict. She <br /> noted again it was unlawful for a Councilor to use his position for a <br /> personal gain. She felt through changing the Charter language, the <br /> problem could be handled. <br /> Individual cases were discussed, with Ms. Benjamin giving clarification. <br /> In one instance, she indicated the City could purchase with a business <br /> in which a City Councilor is employed, if that Councilor is not a stock- <br /> holder and a purchase would not have a direct impact on the Councilor's <br /> sal ary. <br />- Mr. Obie raised a concern in which either he or Mr. Williams' businesses <br /> might contract with the City, and each of the Councilors might be unaware <br /> of that. He felt there needed to be some language to clarify the City has <br /> an obligation to inform the Councilor if it is going to do business with <br /> one of the Councilor's firms. <br /> Manager said the City does have a prohibitive vendors' list; however, <br /> that list is to be completed after Council's discussion and action on <br /> this ordinance. Ms.. Benjamin noted it was possible that Councilors may <br /> own a small share of stock in some businesses with which the City might <br /> contract, such as IBM or Shell Oil. However, she noted the return on <br /> those stocks would be too small to count. It was suggested that perhaps <br /> the City Manager's office be supplied a copy of the Councilors' filing <br /> with the Ethics Commission in order to provide information as to their <br /> interest in various companies and businesses. <br /> The ordinance will be redrafted and brought back to Council <br /> Wednesday, September 27th. <br /> Upon motion duly made, seconded, and passed, the meeting was adjourned to <br /> ~5'j~ <br /> harl es T. Henr <br /> Ci ty Manager <br />4' CTH:OT:pm/CM23alO <br /> 9/20/78--9 <br /> b31 <br />